What is wrong with my frog???

[Ariel]

I don't know what the deal is, I apparently have no luck, I went from 5 bettas to 1 in a matter of a few months, and so I got some african dwarf frogs, one died, leaving me with one and now look at this!!! Its gotten progressively worse since I took the photo, that frog is still alive! What is the deal!?

 

[Finntroll86]

Do you periodically check the water quality(pH, nitrates, etc)? Or do water 20% changes every other week or 50% once a month? It looks to me that you have a fungal problem, the back leg growth and the Grey/white patchy spots make me think this.

 

[Pacmaster]

Definately a fungal infection, there are meds for that at the fish store.

Youll probably lose the frog at this point.

Id take it out of the tank and keep it on wet paper towels.

There is an antifungal treatment we do for pet frogs to prevent chytrid fungus by using 5 squirts of spray LamasilAT to 1 cup warm water.
This treatment, done over a period of 10 days, MIGHT help with this fungus as well.

That is pretty bad, and this is a perfect example of why we dont mix species, especially aquatics.

 

[Ariel]

Do you periodically check the water quality(pH, nitrates, etc)? Or do water 20% changes every other week or 50% once a month? It looks to me that you have a fungal problem, the back leg growth and the Grey/white patchy spots make me think this.

It a fresh tank of water, I just got him.

Definately a fungal infection, there are meds for that at the fish store.

Youll probably lose the frog at this point.

Id take it out of the tank and keep it on wet paper towels.

There is an antifungal treatment we do for pet frogs to prevent chytrid fungus by using 5 squirts of spray LamasilAT to 1 cup warm water.
This treatment, done over a period of 10 days, MIGHT help with this fungus as well.

That is pretty bad, and this is a perfect example of why we dont mix species, especially aquatics.

I'll have to go to the petstore tomorrow and pick something up. I'll move him onto some paper towels tomorrow to, I don't have any paper towels or anything to put him in right now.

Thank you for all of the advice, I will try it and hope he pulls through.

and just curious, what do you mean by mix species? He's in a tank by himself...

 

[Pacmaster]

and just curious, what do you mean by mix species? He's in a tank by himself...

Thought you said it was in with some bettas, if not, my misunderstanding.


I definately wouldnt buy any other aquatics from that store . . .


Did you treat the water with a conditioner to removes toxics?

Aquatic amphibians need cycled water the same as fish . . .

 

[Ariel]

Thought you said it was in with some bettas, if not, my misunderstanding.

I must not have made it clear, I had five bettas, all seperated, and I don't know, something just sweeped my tanks and killed all but one of my bettas and he's housed in a different tank. I tried housing bettas in frogs together since I have a coworker who's done it with great success but anytime I've tried the frogs always killed the betta. After seeing all my fish die I got this guy in an entirely new set up.

I definately wouldnt buy any other aquatics from that store . . .

Ya, I don't think so. Although I've decided I'm done with aquatics and plan to get something a bit more durable with the last two pass.

Did you treat the water with a conditioner to removes toxics?

Aquatic amphibians need cycled water the same as fish . . .

Yes I did treat the water. I didn't have a filter but I did have an airater, which seemed to work well enough the last time I had some of these guys, I had them for a year+ before I got rid of them.

 

[cbeard]

How 'old' was the freshwater? sometimes, fresh water is just as bad as polluted.

You have to leave it in a running tank for a week or so. Also, do you have a heater?

Turn up the temps a bit, and throw some freshwater aquarium salt in the tank. That helps fight fungal infections and can kill off most freshwater issues.

 

[Frédérick]

if you want an hardy frog that is semi aquatic and hardy, I'd go for fire bellied toads. good luck with your fella too!

 

[Ariel]

How 'old' was the freshwater? sometimes, fresh water is just as bad as polluted.

I'd just made it up a few days ago, when I got him.

You have to leave it in a running tank for a week or so. Also, do you have a heater?

will just leaving him in the tank help at all? And no I do not have a heater.

Turn up the temps a bit, and throw some freshwater aquarium salt in the tank. That helps fight fungal infections and can kill off most freshwater issues.[/QUOTE]

I'll try to pick up some. Unforutnately I'm broke at the moment.

if you want an hardy frog that is semi aquatic and hardy, I'd go for fire bellied toads. good luck with your fella too!

Thank you. And thanks for the suggestion, but I think after my last betta passes and this little guy goes, I'll be done with aquatics and frogs.

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an updated, while at work I talked to the exotics vet I work with and I'm going to take in a smear of the fungus tonight, and we're going to go from there as far as treatment.

 

[cbeard]

Heres some rough steps for an aquarium...

NEEDED stuff:
Heater (3w per gallon)
Filter
Light
Aeration

Set up the tank approx 1 week before adding fish or animals of any kind. I use the chemicals 'Stresscoat' and 'stress zyme' in my tanks, as well as a dechlorinator and freshwater aquarium salt at half dose.

Run the tank as if you have fish in it for one week. That mights lights need to be turned on and off as neccesary, heater working, filter running 24/7, bubbler working...

In one week (roughly) pick up a freshwater test kit.

If everything is in order, you can add fish/frogs, ect.


ALL aquarium life including frogs, bettas, fresh water fish, marine life, ect. NEED a cycled tank, and the steps I just listed are the steps to follow to cycle a tank.


I just went through a 3 month cycle for one tank, I had no fish losses.

Also, when you do your bi-weekly water change, you want to remove the water from the tank, but only half off it to 1/4 of it. DO NOT take all the water out, then replace it with water close to the same temp, and use stresscoat and dechlorinator again.

 

[Ariel]

an update, the little guy passed before I could get anything to treat him with.

 

[Amelia]

That is a shame. I am sorry to hear that. I have two of those frogs and they are really quite fun. I hope you try again in the future. My Murphy sings all the time to his new girl, Mindy. mmmmmmmmMMMMMMmmm. mmmmmmmMMMMmmm.

 

[Ariel]

That is a shame. I am sorry to hear that. I have two of those frogs and they are really quite fun. I hope you try again in the future. My Murphy sings all the time to his new girl, Mindy. mmmmmmmmMMMMMMmmm. mmmmmmmMMMMmmm.

I really do love these frogs but I don't think i'll be trying again. My original pair which I got rid of after while cause they kept killing bettas, (when I use to attempt to house them together. I won't ever try that one again), used to sing all the time, it was wonderful, I regret having gotten rid of them. but after losing so many bettas in so little time, and now this, I don't think I'll be getting anymore aquatics anytime soon.

 

[Obelisk]

Bettas are warm water (high 70's/low 80's F) tropical fish. I don't know what temps you had them in, but the fact that you didn't have a heater for them probably made them very vulnerable to whatever killed them.

 

[Amelia]

Yeah, when my friend gave me Murphy, she said that he had savaged some guppies. I bought snails along with Mindy and Murphy tried to get them a couple times. I am pretty sure he has given up because the snails are just fine.

Any idea what your next "adventure" will be?

 

[ZergFront]

if you want an hardy frog that is semi aquatic and hardy, I'd go for fire bellied toads. good luck with your fella too!

Can't help you anymore with the frog other than what's already said, however...

If you want a good hardy fish, too, go with an oscar. Kind of frog faced and not very pretty but their slime coating is almost impenetrable to most pathogens. I've had three. Need a secure lid though. Had two die from jumping out.

Eat just about anything, too.

 

[Ariel]

Bettas are warm water (high 70's/low 80's F) tropical fish. I don't know what temps you had them in, but the fact that you didn't have a heater for them probably made them very vulnerable to whatever killed them.

I don't know. I've always kept bettas at room temp. and never had a problem, I had two that lived over four years. I've never known anyone to use a heater for a betta, and i know someone whos batta lived for almost six years.

/edit/ besides that was not what this thread was about.

 

[Ariel]

Yeah, when my friend gave me Murphy, she said that he had savaged some guppies. I bought snails along with Mindy and Murphy tried to get them a couple times. I am pretty sure he has given up because the snails are just fine.

Any idea what your next "adventure" will be?

HAHA I used to keep snails with my bettas, and my betta would go after them and they'd just tuck into their shells, like "Haha, no you don't"

as for my next, I'm looking at a crested gecko. this forum has really gotten my into them. I have to talk to my parents first since I already have 9 tarantulas, two birds, and my little surivor betta.


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Oh ya, by the way, I went back and talked to the petstore and they just lost all their frogs to the same thing, so it was nothing I did wrong.

 

[Mack&Cass]

if you want an hardy frog that is semi aquatic and hardy, I'd go for fire bellied toads. good luck with your fella too!

I really recommend these guys. We've got 4 of them, two of the oriental variety (Bombina orientalis), and two European (Bombina bombina).

We have ours set up in a 10 gallon witrh 1/4 dry land and 3/4 water. The European ones were the first ones we got and they came in a goldfish starter kit type thing with a small water dish. Once we got them in the 10 gal, they were in the water constantly. They're really great toads, and they eat really well too. They're also extremely hardy as well, just as Frederick said...and they do well in a social set up. Good luck with everything

-Cass

 

[Obelisk]

You mentioned your back luck with bettas, so I offered my take on that. Come to think of it, sorry if the comment sounded a bit rude. I guess it kind of does look like that after reading it.

The heater serves to give them (both the fish and the frogs) some stability and protection against changing temps. Back then, my family also had a betta without a heater for several years, but the room that we had it in was warm most of the time (I live in south fl) and free of any drafts or strong AC current. He was luckier than the other ones which were kept in other parts of the house and died after a few months. Anyway, I keep all of my fish with heaters now since fluctuations in temps can be hard on them (their immune systems for example).