Vinegaroon bioactives

noideawhatimdoing

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Was curious if anyone had thoughts on this bio active tank I made for this female vinegaroon I picked up at a reptile expo a couple months ago. I have already added springtails, but was concerned about the vinegaroon eating the isopods so would like some input on that topic. IMG_1818.jpeg IMG_1817.jpeg
 

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The isopods are going to eat her if she doesn't eat them...


You'd have to give me a quick lesson on their husbandry and humidity requirements, I only know tarantulas and I thought vinegaroons hailed from the desert and that could be my ignorance but...

Do they jive well with that calathea plant that requires constantly moist soil and ambient humidity?

Do they do well without cross ventilation in a damp environment (tarantulas don't, they will suffocate but again I don't know vinegaroons which is the only reason I don't have them yet lol)

It's pretty 😍
 

noideawhatimdoing

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Okay, good to know not to put isopods in w/ her. You were right about them coming from arid areas, and honestly I'm not entirely sure about how high the humidity is supposed to be but general consensus seems to be quite high, like 80%. This individual was previously housed in a small Tupperware container w/ no cross ventilation and seemed to be doing fine, and was actually very active. The substrate previously used was also constantly damp, and w/ the amount of condensation on the inside I'd say the ambient humidity was probably a little excessive TBH. Its been about 12 hours since I rehoused her and she's already burrowed straight down to the drainage layer, so she seems to be settled.

Btw, thanks for the compliment. I try my best!
 

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Okay, good to know not to put isopods in w/ her. You were right about them coming from arid areas, and honestly I'm not entirely sure about how high the humidity is supposed to be but general consensus seems to be quite high, like 80%. This individual was previously housed in a small Tupperware container w/ no cross ventilation and seemed to be doing fine, and was actually very active. The substrate previously used was also constantly damp, and w/ the amount of condensation on the inside I'd say the ambient humidity was probably a little excessive TBH. Its been about 12 hours since I rehoused her and she's already burrowed straight down to the drainage layer, so she seems to be settled.

Btw, thanks for the compliment. I try my best!
Make sure you are getting your data/parameters from searching this website, not AI/Google/Facebook/etc

What can happen without cross ventilation is the the air stagnates, oxygen molecules are lighter than water so the oxygen moves upwards, away from your critter, and it will suffocate.
 

noideawhatimdoing

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Okay, good to know fcat. I will definitely peruse this forum for some more info on parameters and such! Would absolutely not want my girl dying on me.
 

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Depends on the species. Some species live in rainforest. Wheat I have noticed in the ones I see in the wild (Thailand, laaysia and taiwan) is that although they get heavy rains and certainly can take a drench, they tend to live in areas that don't flood as much. Slightly elevated off the lower areas.

I find most under rocks/wood with leaf litter around. cracks in rocks (like rock walls) etc. When I keep them, leaf litter and bark on top of soil for them, a plant or 2 for me :cool: And a water dish.
 

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I've kept springtails with amblypygids before and things seem to work out. Their population does tend to explode though and I worry about them crawling on a freshly molted specimen, but I haven't seen any problems so far.

I have no vinegaroon experience, but i think some moss would look nice/help with the enclosure. They are great places for your pet to drink from, help stop big humidity swings by holding water, and sphagnum is anti-bacterial!
 

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in many cases the humidity levels to maintain a bioactive enclosure wind up being too moist for the invert. You need a ton of airflow as @fcat has expressed
 

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Trying to Create a Miniature Ecosystem within an Enclosure.

Also known as "Bioactive" - Live Plants, Fungi / Mold, and Microfauna are all Key ingredient's
 
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podpeople

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My vinegaroon is in an arid-type bioactive with temperate springtails and dwarf white isopods. I rarely, if ever, see the isopods and the springtails are a healthy number. I've had this setup for about 2 months with no issue - fingers crossed! IMG_20240628_024322099.jpg
 

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My vinegaroon is in an arid-type bioactive with temperate springtails and dwarf white isopods. I rarely, if ever, see the isopods and the springtails are a healthy number. I've had this setup for about 2 months with no issue - fingers crossed! View attachment 478297
yeah just make sure you don’t get so many isopods to where they attack a molting invert.
 

podpeople

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Absolutely. I only added 15 individuals and its an XL faunarium w/ about 6" of substrate. I've only seen an isopod maybe twice, and it was trapped in the water dish. Thankfully the "anti-drowning" pebbles kept it alive. It seems that the pods are spending the majority of their time underground or under the sphagnum moss clump I have in the corner of the enclosure.

Note, there are 3 hides now vs. the two in this photo - the water dish was moved further to the left, the clay pot hide was moved to the right of where the dish is in this photo, and an additional bark hide was added in the bottom left corner. She spends the majority of her time under the cork bark in the middle, just barely burrowed, but this is the bark that was in her old enclosure which had no enrichment whatsoever outside of that piece of bark and some Eco Earth. I assume this is why she prefers that hide.
 

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