viet bird eating spider?

[Kayv]

i was at the petstore the other day and in a tank labled "vietnamese bird eating spider" Now this thing was pretty big, maybe 41/2 inch or 5. does anyone know the scientific name or if it is a true tarantula? it might be a cousin of the tarantula like the trapdoor spider but this thing is huge and fat. i know its hard to know because many petstores use different names. thanks

 

[Botar]

Most likely it is a Haplopelma species. Which Haplopelma species would be the question. This is the same genus as the Cobalt Blue. They are an old world burrowing species. They need enough substrate to build a burrow, lack urticating hairs, can be rather defensive and once set-up properly, they are seldom seen. Don't get me wrong, they are one of my favorites, just not what most people are wanting in a T.

Botar

 

[bigTimeLoser89]

i think it be viet. tiger and if so id be careful with this speices they are fast and from what i hear more aggressive i dont know about burrowing but i hear they do stay in there shelter most the time as a cobalt would...

 

[Aviculariinae]

What colour was it and did it have any chevron markings on the abdomen!I bet the spider you seen was black and i would guess it is a Haplopelma Minax
But i would think it is an Haplopelma sp if it is not!
Very Aggressive
High Humidity
and a very deep burrower!

Hope this helps

 

[rknralf]

Its most liekly a Cyriopagopus paganus.
There was a thread earlier this year mentioning the Vietnam birdeaters and that was the identified type.
Hope this helps!
Ralph
P.S. Haplopema minix is an awesome tarantula, but is not all that common in the hobby for some reason.

 

[Code Monkey]

Originally posted by rknralf
P.S. Haplopema minix is an awesome tarantula, but is not all that common in the hobby for some reason.

I'm going to take a stab that it's not common in the hobby because it has a limited collection locale and that importers discovered that C. paganus and other similar species were happily sold as H. minax by a lot of dealers for ages before the differences became highlighted and better known.

 

[Aviculariinae]

That is very true code monkey,Same thing with Cyriopagopus thorelli this species is not in the pet trade but Cyriopagopus schiodtei is being sold as thorelli!
And sometimes Hysterocrates gigas is sold as Hysterocrates hercules.

 

[Lopez]

Originally posted by Sham,Tarantulas
That is very true code monkey,Same thing with Cyriopagopus thorelli this species is not in the pet trade but Cyriopagopus schiodtei is being sold as thorelli!
And sometimes Hysterocrates gigas is sold as Hysterocrates hercules.

Not quite right there Bren, IMO anyway.

I think it is more likely that C schioedtei is C thorelli - the two species are very likely to be synonymous, with C schioedtei having preference due to it being an older description than C thorelli.

What happens if/when C paganus becomes H longipendum is beyond me - isn't C paganus the Type species of the whole Cyriopagopus genus? Then things will get really confusing :?

 

[Aviculariinae]

Its a really crazy messed up genus,Because isnt there a whole load of colour and geograhical varients aswell,I believe some species of C schioedtei / C thorelli are suppose to reach very big sizes and some are quite small and some with quite different colours!
Wheres a good taxonomist when he,s not hiding behind a nickname on a forum LOL!

As you said about the two being the same you are very correct my mistake,I have to make a copy of any information i get so i can refer to it!and ive just looked at it again to see i was wrong in what i said!:?

 

[Lopez]

Returning to the original thread topic:

I expect the spider is a Haplopelma sp. "longipendum"
This is often sold in the pet trade as Cyriopagopus paganus.

Here is my adult female, pre and post moult:

 

[Wade]

Damn those common names with "birdeater", "earthtiger" and "Baboon" in them!

Anyway, does it look like any of the ones in this thread?

http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?threadid=428

Wade

 

[PapaSmurf]

lopez,
hey! h.longipedum is silverish from the one i seen that looks like an asain black....




josh

 

[Kayv]

ya the way the guy describves it in your link is how id describe it. thnx