Untimely death for a baby Heteropoda Davidbowie. Cause?

LycanTheWolf

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Hello everyone.
Only recently (beginning of September) I got a new Heteropoda Davidbowie baby (I saw one at an expo and decided to get it after my last one passed of age).
I really enjoyed her. She didn't show herself frequently but when she did it was nice.
I knew she ate and was doing good because the crickets dissappeared and the abdomen always looked a good size.
2 days ago she came out again and I didn't think much of it. She crawled around a bit and then sat on a leaf.
the day after she still sat on the leaf and I thought she was sleeping so I left her.
Today she still sat at the exact same spot, so I decided to poke at her, to my very painful suprise I didn't get a response and found out she passed.
It's honestly really annoying. She seemed to do so well and now she just decided to drop dead?
I have some pictures attached and it doesn't look like she has any harm on her.
What could the reason of death be? I had this spider in almost the same set up as the last Heteropoda Davidbowie, so it can't be that.
Am I just unlucky? Or could I have been the mistake?
 

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Wolfram1

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well if a spider dies unexpectedly my first impuls is always to check the ventilation vs. the moisture introduced.

Its really hard to rule this out when no pictures or descriptions of the setup are included.

basically did something change and create stuffy conditions in an otherwise fine enclosure?
 

LycanTheWolf

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well if a spider dies unexpectedly my first impuls is always to check the ventilation vs. the moisture introduced.

Its really hard to rule this out when no pictures or descriptions of the setup are included.

basically did something change and create stuffy conditions in an otherwise fine enclosure?

I did the same thing as I did with my last Davidbowie. The ventilation hasn't changed and should be plenty (screen lid, and 1 screen side panel).
Moisture wise I mist the enclosure once a day. As said the last davidbowie had no problem with that. So I'm suprised that she passed. Especially because she seemed so well even moments before her death
 

CRX

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I have heard that this species is prone to dying unexpectedly. especially young ones.
 

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That is not a davidbowie, that‘s a sp. java if not sp. flores.

I don‘t know their final size but this might be an adult female died pf age?
If i remember correctly the sp. malaysia don‘t get that big so i assume one of those stays smaller aswell.

long story short, you got ripped off.
 

LycanTheWolf

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That is not a davidbowie, that‘s a sp. java if not sp. flores.

I don‘t know their final size but this might be an adult female died pf age?
If i remember correctly the sp. malaysia don‘t get that big so i assume one of those stays smaller aswell.

long story short, you got ripped off.
Wait what?!
I mean I had an actual adult Davidbowie before so I know what they look like.
And I noticed that they look different but I thought the colour change and hair come with age.

It's also crazy that he sold it to me as a baby and when I asked him when she hatched he was like "a few weeks ago"

But it should've been obvious I also bought some kind of Skolopender from him and he told me "yeah the box says Dehaani but that's not right, I don't know what kind it really is"

Thank you tho. After looking at pictures at sp. Java I can see that it's practically the same spider.
 

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Few weeks old or a few weeks left to live.
a few week old davidbowie is the smallest coin you can get,including legs 😂.

I agree with the other posts, davidbowie juveniles can be hard to be kept alive.

they have the crazy hairs from the very beginning.

however, sp. Java or „red fangs“ is on the easier side of heteropoda sp.

And feel free to post a pic of your scolo. I am not the very best when it comes to myrapoda but i can give a guess or the right direction.
 

LycanTheWolf

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Few weeks old or a few weeks left to live.
a few week old davidbowie is the smallest coin you can get,including legs 😂.

I agree with the other posts, davidbowie juveniles can be hard to be kept alive.

they have the crazy hairs from the very beginning.

however, sp. Java or „red fangs“ is on the easier side of heteropoda sp.

And feel free to post a pic of your scolo. I am not the very best when it comes to myrapoda but i can give a guess or the right direction.
You're right. Honestly my brain should've switched when he said that it's only a few weeks old. I don't have much experience with True Spiders. But I raised a GBB from a sling. And it took MONTHS to even reach a size like that. But I think I was just way too in the moment at the expo.

Here's a pic of the skolo. The box said subspinipes (not dehaani) which is definitely not true.
 

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Looks like an ethmostigmus sp.
They‘re pretty cool! I am sure someone can identify it in the myrapoda section!
 
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