unknown Gekko.. the Assorted kind.

[Gwegowee]

I got an Gekko from the Assorted tank.. I guess hes the Assorted species. I got a few pics. a very photogenic lizard, likes to pose for me. does anyone know what species he is? also I dont know anything about Gekkos... so any help is appreciated..

I already have an almost fully developed colony of N Cinarea (Lobster roach) how big/small can/should the roaches be to feed? and how often can/should I feed... can they over eat? the gekko is about 4 or 5 inches not including the tale..

here are a few pictures.

 

[GailC]

I'm surprised no has came up with an ID yet. Maybe you can get a picture that show its color/feet and eyes better?

 

[Gwegowee]

Ok will do so this afternoon.

 

[karmeleon]

This is a marble gecko (Gecko monarchus) from indonesia. I have 3 of them.
check out http://www.jackspets.com/reptilehints/MARBLE GECKO.htm

 

[Michael Jacobi]

This is a marble gecko (Gecko monarchus)

Despite that care sheet's misspelling, the genus is actually Gekko. The best known member of the genus, the "Tokay Gecko", has the very odd scientific name Gekko gecko.

Cheers, Michael

 

[Gwegowee]

Hmmm Gekko Monarchus? there seems to be a disagreement as to what Gekko (or Gecko) Monarchus actually is... spotted house Gecko Spotted House Gecko... (good picture and semingly good info--wrong gekko)... or the Marble Gecko (semingly good info--bad picture, but looks like mine) Do you have any other information or backup to prove the species? like information on morphs possibly? maybe they are the same species I dont know? I'm a Spider person.

Also seems to be dissagreement with how to spell Gecko and/or Gekko.... I checked it out on Dictionary.reference.com myself... Gekko actually does not exist as a word in the english language.. and it suggests Gecko... which has the short definition of "Any of various usually small tropical and subtropical lizards of the family Gekkonidae." so I guess Gecko is short for Gekkonidae?? it seems kindof weird to change the spelling for the short version so I will just use both.. but continue to use Gekko when not quoting.... I really dont know.... Im a Spider person. lol. but either way... it makes no difference as long as its understandable that we know what exactly is being spoken of. agreed?

thanks alot guys... found alot of info about "Gekkonidae" today. lol

 

[Michael Jacobi]

Also seems to be dissagreement with how to spell Gecko and/or Gekko.... I checked it out on Dictionary.reference.com myself... Gekko actually does not exist as a word in the english language..

:wall: :wall:

Gekko is not an English word, it's a generic epithet. The genus name. Part of a scientific name, which are often derived from Latin, Greek, geographical regions, honorifics, etc. etc. etc. Lizards of the family Gekkonidae are popularly called "geckos" in English - the genus is called "Gekko". Did you find Brachypelma in the dictionary?

Cheers, Michael

PS: Specific epithets - species names - always begin with a lower case letter. Your gecko may not be Gekko monarchus, but it definitely isn't "Gekko Monarchus"

 

[Gwegowee]

hahaha interesting idea. just because a word is not english does not mean it wont be in the english dictionary. every other word in the language is derived from another language. even leters are derived from symbols from other languages. gekkonidae is not an english word either... however this Latin word IS in the English dictionary. but Like I said...Gecko is recognised in the English dictionary as a word, and a shortened form of Gekkonidae. I do think it would be stupid to change the Latan form Gekko in Gekkonidae to Gecko for the comon form... I will continue to use Gekko because that is what I am used to... and "Gecko" when quoting a person or website... but my point about the subject was, who really cares how you really spell the word? they sound the same... both are very commonly used. and as long as everyone knows exactly what is being talked about it doesn't really matter what the spelling is... BOTH "Gecko" and "Gekko" are Rigid designators of the very same Gekkonidae family yes?

but... back to the origional subject... I have never heard of this rule with epithets being lowercase... I dont get it.. like... what would be the namenclature difference between Gekkonidae Monarchus (uppercase) and Gekkonidae monarchus (lowercase)? :?

 

[Michael Jacobi]

I have never heard of this rule with epithets being lowercase... I dont get it..

Somehow, I'm not surprised. :wall:

like... what would be the namenclature difference between Gekkonidae Monarchus (uppercase) and Gekkonidae monarchus (lowercase)? :?

First, the word is "nomenclature". Second, there wouldn't be a difference because both are gibberish. "Gekkonidae" is a family name and stands alone (and always begins with an upper case letter). The point was, a genus name is always capitalized (e.g., Brachypelma) and a species name always begins with a lower case letter (e.g., emilia). Thus, Brachypelma emilia. Or to use the roach species you misspelled in the original post as an example, it is Nauphoeta cinerea, NOT "Nauphoeta Cinerea" and certainly not "N Cinarea". This ends the lesson...

In life, some time you just can't get back.

Cheers, Michael

 

[Beardo]

but... back to the origional subject... I have never heard of this rule with epithets being lowercase... I dont get it.. like... what would be the namenclature difference between Gekkonidae Monarchus (uppercase) and Gekkonidae monarchus (lowercase)?

lol....This is Biology 101 stuff, man. Anyone with even a hint of taxonomic awareness knows that genus names are capitalized and species names are lower case.

 

[Gwegowee]

uh oh.. nomenclature whatever... I spelled the word wrong... I suck at spelling, and it's not new information. lol.... N cinarea rather than N Cinarea... thanks for the isight. sorry for the uninformed mistakes, Im sure im not the only one. It was made to seem that Gekko "Monarchus" was a true complete and seperat gekko species from Gekko "monarchus". this is why I was confused and brought up the nomenclature of the two different species.

This is the first time I have ever heard of this rule of the epithets being lowercased... I have never taken a biology course, most of my knowledge is from experience and friends rather than books and schooling. and.. you are not supprised??? that is an insult on my character, and takes a stance that you are better than me... first of all you have never met me and can not make an informed judgement on my character, Also it is just plane unkind to say that. Even if you were not supprised, it is still unkind to say so. I'm hoping you were not supprised because its a common mistake, while not realizing that this is what it would sound like to a reader. I'm sure you have tons of good information, but correcting english on the spelling of "nomenclature" and pointing out the fact that the epithet is not capitalized detracts from the subject, and does not help in my quest to find what kind of Gekko I have. Or if it can/could help (in the future) please state that it would help, making it seem more kind. Unless (which I hope is not the case) you are trying to be down right insulting; in this case, your wording is perfect.

Now... for my question... there still seems to be a dissagreement as to what Gekko monarchus actually is... is there any other information that I am missing? Thanks

 

[Gwegowee]

lol....This is Biology 101 stuff, man. Anyone with even a hint of taxonomic awareness knows that genus names are capitalized and species names are lower case.

yeah exactly my point. I have never taken biology. I got out of it under technicality. I was taking marching Band, Geometry and Earth Science freshman year of highschool, were forced to take phisical science the next year, and afterwords we could no longer enroll in the class (tiny school system) me and 2 other guys--10% of the graduating class had the same problem after looking at the problem they let us graduate because of the technicality. hence my being uninformed. all I know about biology is what I have found out on my own.

 

[GailC]

If you are looking for common name for Gekko monarchus then you will never find one, or should I say you will not find JUST one. There are many common names for this lizard.
If you are looking for care info, etc.. then you will be better off using the scientific name, that's why Michael Jacobi corrected your spelling of the name. It might not seem like an important point but it is when it comes to researching a new pet.
I recently (yesterday) got 3 new geckos, I've found at least 5 common names for them. I picked the name I like best for using with friends/family but when discussing them online I always use their scientific name.

 

[Gwegowee]

Its not the common name that really concerns me... just added info... mainly its the picture... I found two websites about Gekko Monarchus species of gekko... but the pictures look completely different from eachother.. G. monarchus which they call Marble Gecko this one looks like mine.. but has a bad picture, and not much information is given about them. another website about G. monarchus calls it the Spotted House Gecko and looks completely different, green and yellow shades with black spots. do you know if one website or the other has the scientific name listed wrong?

 

[GailC]

I can't really help you with that. I don't know much about gecko species I don't keep. You should try to find a good gecko forum, take a couple of better pictures and get a proper ID from a gecko person.

Here are a couple of good forum you can try.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=93

http://www.reptilerooms.com/forumview-6.html

 

[Gwegowee]

thanks waldo.

 

[karmeleon]

I keep mine simililar to a tokay (they are found in the same areas) of which you will find lots of care info.