Unidentified Theraphosidae (No ID Requests)

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This thread is for undescribed, or unidentified species in the hobby. Spiders that have not been identified down to a genus level yet. ( this is not a thread to post ID me pics) I've got many species that have been coming in with vague names like Theraphosinae sp. "anything", and they need a place to post photo's of them.

Theraphosidae sp." Cundinamarca"


Theraphosinae sp. "cuzco"


Theraphosinae sp. "Costa rica" ( also traded as Cryspidromus sp. "Black emilia" , or Lasiodora icecu ).


Theraphosinae sp. "Panama" spiderling


Theraphosinae sp. Ecuador ( also traded as Cyclosternum sp. Machalla )



Later, Tom
 
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What's the care for these guys like? I've been considering picking up one soon

EDIT: The sp. Panama that is
 
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Tom do you have adult females of the Theraphosidae sp." Cundinamarca" variety?
 
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Theraphosinae sp. CUNDINAMARCA
female BL ca. 35 mm



this picture was made in 2012.
now the female is a little bit bigger (BL 40 mm) and has the same coloration like the bigger juveniles.
 
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Tom, do you know more about this Monte Carmelo? Like where is this locality and what its looks like when adult? Thanks
 
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Arachnomaniac19 said:
Just speculation, but the Theraphosinae sp. "Rotan" looks like a Holothele.
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I doubt it. Not sure what it is yet, but wouldn't be surprised if its a new genus. The males are a pretty purple-ish color. See here.


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Tom, do you know more about this Monte Carmelo? Like where is this locality and what its looks like when adult? Thanks
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I don't know anything about them yet. Monte Carmelo seems to be a Brazil local. It kind of reminds me of a Plesiopelma species, but who knows. I don't think there are any pictures of adults available yet.

Later, Tom
 
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Tom I have a lead that I'm tracking down for more info on the Monte Carmelo animals. I'll let you know if I receive any worthwhile info.

I like the looks of the Theraphosinae sp. "Rotan" too.

David
 
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I am brazilian and I can tell you they are just not existent in brazilian hobby. Maybe it is from here, but I think it is pretty much improbable. Never even saw any picture of it in brazilian forums or FB groups.
 
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Gekkotan said:
I am brazilian and I can tell you they are just not existent in brazilian hobby. Maybe it is from here, but I think it is pretty much improbable. Never even saw any picture of it in brazilian forums or FB groups.
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Hello from the U.S. and thanks for the comments. I just assumed it was from Brazil, as when you Google " Monte Carmelo" the following sentence comes up. "Monte Carmelo is a Brazilian municipality located in the northwest of the state of Minas Gerais" I could be very wrong though. With that said I wouldn't be surprised if we have a spider from there that's not known in the Brazilian hobby yet. It's my understanding that you have restrictions in place on keeping tarantulas ? Can you confirm that ? If so I could see many species popping up outside of Brazil first. Since spiders usually do not leave Brazil in a legal fashion, I'm sure its very hush hush when people are collecting and leaving the country with them. In most cases they have to travel through a few countries before we can legally obtain them here in the U.S. Sort of a silly loop hole in the system, but that's how it is. David (dactylus) and I have some good leads on who got there hands on them first, and we are tracking down more info on them. I'll post more about it here when I know more.

Thanks, Tom
 
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Philth said:
Hello from the U.S. and thanks for the comments. I just assumed it was from Brazil, as when you Google " Monte Carmelo" the following sentence comes up. "Monte Carmelo is a Brazilian municipality located in the northwest of the state of Minas Gerais" I could be very wrong though. With that said I wouldn't be surprised if we have a spider from there that's not known in the Brazilian hobby yet. It's my understanding that you have restrictions in place on keeping tarantulas ? Can you confirm that ? If so I could see many species popping up outside of Brazil first. Since spiders usually do not leave Brazil in a legal fashion, I'm sure its very hush hush when people are collecting and leaving the country with them. In most cases they have to travel through a few countries before we can legally obtain them here in the U.S. Sort of a silly loop hole in the system, but that's how it is. David (dactylus) and I have some good leads on who got there hands on them first, and we are tracking down more info on them. I'll post more about it here when I know more.

Thanks, Tom
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Thats true Tom, here we are not allowed to keep them. I just think that this species may not be brazilian. Besides the prohibition, spiders are still kept by a lot of people, and when new and differents individuals are collected, they pop up in brazilians forums and FB groups. I am very interested in this. For example, I saw Oligoxystre diamantinensis and Pterinopelma sazimai pictures about 3 times at least before they were described, one of them was even here in AB. Also, they were kept and bred before they were exported from Brazil and I know the stories about who did this. Brazil is a very big country, but the hobby is pretty tight. It is almost like those small towns where anyone knows everybody. I am not saying that this is not a brazilian species, just that I would not, at any chance, bet all my coins in that.
 
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Gekkotan said:
I just think that this species may not be brazilian.
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Well, you were right. They are from Peru. I spoke to the original collectors and here's what he had to say.

Well I collected this Theraphosinae last year in Peru at Amazon river beween Iquitos and Leticia.
It´s a medium sized species (around 4/5cm body). This nice spider is a little nervous and fast. Found them under rotten wood.

Got a single aggsac of this species. The picture you sent me should be one of my babies.
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I'm still confused where the name "Monte Carmelo comes from though. He gave me permission to share a photo of the adult female.


Photo credit: Hans-Werner Auer

Later, Tom
 
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