UN ID'd snake

Philth

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A little more info would help, but my guess would be a Ringneck Snake or some sort of Diadophis sp. Is the bottom brightly colored?

Later, Tom
 

bhamgreg

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Thats definantly a ringneck. I have kept one as a pet before, rather docile but frisky lil fellas
 

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Like everyone else has said, it's a ringneck. I can't tell you exactly what it is without a ventral view of the animal.

I can tell you that it's probably NOT a southern ringneck snake as their rings are incomplete.
 

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ya i'm not sure what subspecies it is but they are relativley similar in habitat and demenor. they are considered mildly venomous though harmless to humans.
They are members of the colubrid family.
 

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Eightleg, LordL is correct about the incomplete ring around the neck. It is probably a Northern Ringnecked Snake (Diadophis punctatus edwardsii). As far as subspecies, we would have to know where you live. They do belong to the Colubrid family but are not venemous although they do upturn there tales and let out a very distictive musk.

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Eightleg, LordL is correct about the incomplete ring around the neck. It is probably a Northern Ringnecked Snake (Diadophis punctatus edwardsii). As far as subspecies, we would have to know where you live. They do belong to the Colubrid family but are not venemous although they do upturn there tales and let out a very distictive musk.

David
The corkscrew tail defense I believe is more common in ringnecks from the southeast or midwest. I've found tons of ringnecks in NJ and not a single one has coiled up its tail.
 

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The corkscrew tail defense I believe is more common in ringnecks from the southeast or midwest. I've found tons of ringnecks in NJ and not a single one has coiled up its tail.
We've found hundreds here in the midwest and I've not seen that behavior in any here.
 

bhamgreg

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Eightleg, LordL is correct about the incomplete ring around the neck. It is probably a Northern Ringnecked Snake (Diadophis punctatus edwardsii). As far as subspecies, we would have to know where you live. They do belong to the Colubrid family but are not venemous although they do upturn there tales and let out a very distictive musk.

David
several online sources say they are venomous to insignificant creatures but the venom is unnoticeable in human and most larger species of animals. However I don't know how accurate this is. Its the same with the hognose and few other species They supposedly have venom but not venom of any sort of medical significance to humans. I'd like to find more info on the subject of them being slightly venomous but google has resulted in a lot of conflicting data as it so often does.
 

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bhamgreg, I got my info from Peterson's Field Guides to Western and Eastern Reptiles and Amphibians. The Hognose is venemous as well as the Night Snake, the Lyre Snake, and the Vine Snake. I have captured several Night Snakes and they have not been prone to bite, maybe due to their small size. I have yet to see a Lyre Snake as I am in their range. Anyways, yes, there is a lot of conflicting info. That is why I stick with tried and true sources such as the Peterson Field Guides. If you don't own them, you should give them a shot.

David
 

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I used to have a few of them but i have no idea where they are right now.
 
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