Toad breeding. :]

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SOOO I decided to start breeding these american toads I caught a few days ago. They're going at it like crazy. I see some strings of eggs comming out of the females butt. The male is 3inches long, olive colored(sorta reminds me of deer poop---when I found it I thought it was deer poop untill I saw it move while I got closer). The female is 4inches long and is rusty red colored. The female keeps putting out alot of em. They're black dotted but I don't see the the cream that sorrounds it. Its just black.

Iam waiting for the male to fertilize them I g uess. Better do it! D: <
 

dtknow

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The male should be spraying sperm over the eggs as the female is ejecting them. Only way to know for sure is when they start developing(chances are some will not be fertile even in the best of situations).

Also-the jelly surrounding the eggs takes a while to swell up that is totally normal.

Keep us updated!
 

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The male should be spraying sperm over the eggs as the female is ejecting them. Only way to know for sure is when they start developing(chances are some will not be fertile even in the best of situations).

Also-the jelly surrounding the eggs takes a while to swell up that is totally normal.

Keep us updated!
Well I just transfered them to what I think is a 3gallon container. Umm its full of water and just conditioner. I had to change em with my hands. Like I didn't have anything to scoop up the eggs except a cup and it was hard with a cup. So I picked em up with my hands. But I had trouble. Some of the strands broke into smaller strands. The eggs are still intact(I think). but I was wondering if this will badly affect the eggs??? Also... Should I put a heater in the container? Or keep it natural? Should I use a 3gallon filter(produces al ot of bubbles)? Should I use a fungal medicine called pimafix? to prevent any fungus? Or will this hurt the eggs? I read somewhere to use a fungus preventer. But idk if it ill hurt it.


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Will the eggs be fine? They're at the bottom of the container. I know alot of the tadpoles may end up dying----but that's natural anyways. This always happens. I was thinking when the hatch ill seperate the taddies into seperate groups. SO if I make a mistake with one. ATLEAST it wasn't ALL of the taddies. The male is trying to mate with the OTHER toad I have there. The one it mated with laid a ton of eggs last night. LIKE A TON!!!!!! I would say over 5k worth of eggs!!!

The one its trying to mate with is only 1 and a few months old. Its very plump. So I was hoping to get some more eggs in to maximise my tadpole count.

How long till the eggs hatch? if I use warmer water(72degrees) will it hurt the eggs development? Because it speeds it up... but fast isn't always better.... Would it be okay to use some water from my turtle/fish tank? or will it hurt the eggs? Its completely cycled.
 

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I can only offer advice for what to feed the tadpoles.
Crushed algae wafers and goldfish flakes, boiled romaine lettuce (boil until its mushy), frog and tadpole bites, and when they are getting back legs they might eat some chopped blackworms.

Toadlets are very small so try springtails and fruit flies at first.
 

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I can only offer advice for what to feed the tadpoles.
Crushed algae wafers and goldfish flakes, boiled romaine lettuce (boil until its mushy), frog and tadpole bites, and when they are getting back legs they might eat some chopped blackworms.

Toadlets are very small so try springtails and fruit flies at first.
Iam thinking this would be a good food mix:
-Algae wafers(50% the food)
-Sinking Frog Bites(reptomin for frogs---the one with the african dwarf frog in the pic, 20%)
-Fresh veggies(20% ==will carrots work too? Tomato slices? Apple? I got live plants in the set up---Iam moving the eggs soon to the 29Gallon tank I have set up---I moved the fish and inverts out of the tank and did a 50%change of water)
-Sinking Goldfish pellets or Floating tropical fish flakes(color enhancer for the flakes---10%)



Don't they need to eat their tails first completely before I feed them? show me a picture of when its okay to feed the toadlet.


As for fruitflies---its hard to get them in stores but ill check. Ill also see if I can order them online.

As for springtails. Show me a picture of them? Where can I get some?

Anything else they may take that's small and good for them that I can easily find?
 

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Iam thinking this would be a good food mix:
-Algae wafers(50% the food)
-Sinking Frog Bites(reptomin for frogs---the one with the african dwarf frog in the pic, 20%)
-Fresh veggies(20% ==will carrots work too? Tomato slices? Apple? I got live plants in the set up---Iam moving the eggs soon to the 29Gallon tank I have set up---I moved the fish and inverts out of the tank and did a 50%change of water)
-Sinking Goldfish pellets or Floating tropical fish flakes(color enhancer for the flakes---10%)



Don't they need to eat their tails first completely before I feed them? show me a picture of when its okay to feed the toadlet.


As for fruitflies---its hard to get them in stores but ill check. Ill also see if I can order them online.

As for springtails. Show me a picture of them? Where can I get some?

Anything else they may take that's small and good for them that I can easily find?


Geez, i'm not sure if tomato's and carrots and apples are healthy, they eat greens like plants, fruit really isnt part of their diet. Romaine lettuce is just leafy greens that's why I suggested that, spinach too. They will eat live plants too but not sure how long the plants will live or if certain species are too tough to eat. The rest of the stuff you listed sounds good to me.

When they become toadlets and their tails are absorbed, yes then thats when you feed them live food. Spring tails are usually found under leaf litter, people here can tell you how to keep your own culture at home. They are almost microscopic. Newborn crickets are good but they are hard to find unless you breed your own.
This is when they are ready to eat as adults-
 

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Be sure the water is clean and free of chlorine/chloramine. I would leave the eggs alone in the same water they were laid as much as possible.

When tadpoles hatch you will need very large aquarium(s) if you are going to raise them all. It is best to keep stocking density on the low side as this will make keeping water quality up easier and the resulting toadlets will be larger-which will make raising them easier. fishflakes etc. will be find. They will eat soft boiled greens when they get older. Anyway make sure not to overfeed. You may want to consider discarding most of the tadpoles to make things more manageable. Better to raise 200 tadpoles to 50 or so large healthy toadlets than attempt to raise 2000 and have all of them die.

Best way to feed toadlets is small soil inverts like springtails and mites. You could set up a compost pile of topsoil, leaflitter, vegetable/fruit scraps and this should produce lots of little creatures.
 

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Be sure the water is clean and free of chlorine/chloramine. I would leave the eggs alone in the same water they were laid as much as possible.

When tadpoles hatch you will need very large aquarium(s) if you are going to raise them all. It is best to keep stocking density on the low side as this will make keeping water quality up easier and the resulting toadlets will be larger-which will make raising them easier. fishflakes etc. will be find. They will eat soft boiled greens when they get older. Anyway make sure not to overfeed. You may want to consider discarding most of the tadpoles to make things more manageable. Better to raise 200 tadpoles to 50 or so large healthy toadlets than attempt to raise 2000 and have all of them die.

Best way to feed toadlets is small soil inverts like springtails and mites. You could set up a compost pile of topsoil, leaflitter, vegetable/fruit scraps and this should produce lots of little creatures.
I already moved the eggs to a 29g. I got in a arguement with another person on another person saying that 200taddies in a 29 is not good. Which is what I was planning on the beggining. I was going to release 2,000 of them. Iam going to put back a large ammount of taddies back where I found the parents and keep 200 or alittle less in the tank, I have a 3g filter running. Its not powerful at all. I got a filter for a 29g too. Its not powerfull either. But ill cover the area of the intake tube before I turn it on. Ill fashion it out of a mouth was large cap. And cover the bottom of the cap with cloth/mesh to also prevent any of them getting stuck in the tubes from there. Ill poke small tiny holes on the sides of the cap to help with some intake flow but not to the point where its too strong.
 

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Being you caught these toads where you live, you can release any excess tadpoles back where they belong instead of killing them. :)

Toads are cool, and if they are American toads they vary in color so you never know what pattern or shade they will become, i've seen them in browns,yellows, and reds. And albino tadpoles are common in them. Their skin changes color slightly depending on temp,humidity, and stress level.

I used to have one as a pet, they beg for food and will look up at you waiting to be fed they recognize your face, and eat right out of your hand. But just be careful not to overfeed. Worms are their favorite as adults!
 
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SandDeku

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Being you caught these toads where you live, you can release any excess tadpoles back where they belong instead of killing them. :)

Toads are cool, and if they are American toads they vary in color so you never know what pattern or shade they will become, i've seen them in browns,yellows, and reds. And albino tadpoles are common in them. Their skin changes color slightly depending on temp,humidity, and stress level.

I used to have one as a pet, they beg for food and will look up at you waiting to be fed they recognize your face, and eat right out of your hand. But just be careful not to overfeed. Worms are their favorite as adults!
I was thinking of releasing one of the adults that I caught back into the pond and keeping the original toad I have, and the male toad since its pretty small and seems quite comfortable around me. Its even calling RIGHT infront of me right now.

I was thinking of hatching the eggs and throwing away to the pond the other tadpoles that I may not like. Albino tadpoles? Hope I get some! lol. I'd seperate that one and put it in a smaller group for higher success. lol. I'd love an albino american toad. Or just a lighter colored one. Since I rather be able to see it in contrast to the dirt.
 
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