Tliltocatl Albopilosus Egg Sac

[Xiaopow0310]

Hello everyone, I had a T. Albo surrendered to me recently with an egg sac. She laid the egg sac on March 11th and the owner stated that she got her in November and did not pair her with a male so it may just be a phantom sac. However, in the case that it is not, I just wanted to get some clarification on information I've read in my research to make sure that I'm properly prepared for this.

The first thing I have a question on is when do I take the egg sac from the mother? I have people told me anywhere from 35 days to 60 days. My initial plan is to do around 45 days in order for the hatchlings to be closer to their first molt and be more durable.

Next I was told to put them in incubation (I assume I skip this step if they are no longer "eggs with legs"). with high humidity. My plan was to keep the incubation chamber in my reptile room which on average is around 75-80 degrees during the day but can drop down to around 70 at night. Should I provide a heat pad to ensure that the temperature of the chamber stays in the high 70s/low 80s?

Lastly, due to the large volume of the potential slings, I was planning on housing them all in one enclosure and feeding them communally. At this stage, I'm wondering when they are robust enough to start shipping out to adopters and when I should start separating them.

Please let me know if this sounds good or if I am missing anything/planning on doing something incorrect.

 

[coolnweird]

God, it's like looking back through time! My T. albo made a sac shortly after I received her, and I went through everything you're going through now.

30 days is the general mark to pull, if you wait too long they may hatch in the mom's enclosure, which is a pain in the butt to deal with. After 30 days you can pull the sac, open up it up, and you'll see if you have healthy eggs/ewls! If they're hard, moldy, darkened, etc, they won't be viable. If they're golden yellow and plump looking, you should be good to go. You'll still want to incubate everyone until the 2nd instar, so one molt from ewl to 1st instar, and then another molt from 1st instar to 2nd instar. A tupperware with plenty of ventilation and some damp coffee filters make a great incubator! This video has some good instructional footage:

After they reach 2nd instar, they will be ready to eat and go to new homes. This is also typically when they begin cannibalisation, although it can happen earlier on. My sac never ended up hatching so I can't give you any hands on advice here, but I hope this helps!

 

[Arachnophobphile]

Hello everyone, I had a T. Albo surrendered to me recently with an egg sac. She laid the egg sac on March 11th and the owner stated that she got her in November and did not pair her with a male so it may just be a phantom sac. However, in the case that it is not, I just wanted to get some clarification on information I've read in my research to make sure that I'm properly prepared for this.

The first thing I have a question on is when do I take the egg sac from the mother? I have people told me anywhere from 35 days to 60 days. My initial plan is to do around 45 days in order for the hatchlings to be closer to their first molt and be more durable.

Next I was told to put them in incubation (I assume I skip this step if they are no longer "eggs with legs"). with high humidity. My plan was to keep the incubation chamber in my reptile room which on average is around 75-80 degrees during the day but can drop down to around 70 at night. Should I provide a heat pad to ensure that the temperature of the chamber stays in the high 70s/low 80s?

Lastly, due to the large volume of the potential slings, I was planning on housing them all in one enclosure and feeding them communally. At this stage, I'm wondering when they are robust enough to start shipping out to adopters and when I should start separating them.

Please let me know if this sounds good or if I am missing anything/planning on doing something incorrect.

If it's a fertile sac be prepared for alot...and I mean alot of spiderlings.

If you do not have people lined up for them nor can take care of so many slings yourself there is another unfortunate alternative.

 

[Xiaopow0310]

If it's a fertile sac be prepared for alot...and I mean alot of spiderlings.

If you do not have people lined up for them nor can take care of so many slings yourself there is another unfortunate alternative.

Yup, we have 3 staff members at the rescue and get about 3-6 volunteers 3 times a week to help out. Definitely a task that I'm gonna spend a couple hours on a day to make sure everything's going well.

 

[Xiaopow0310]

God, it's like looking back through time! My T. albo made a sac shortly after I received her, and I went through everything you're going through now.

30 days is the general mark to pull, if you wait too long they may hatch in the mom's enclosure, which is a pain in the butt to deal with. After 30 days you can pull the sac, open up it up, and you'll see if you have healthy eggs/ewls! If they're hard, moldy, darkened, etc, they won't be viable. If they're golden yellow and plump looking, you should be good to go. You'll still want to incubate everyone until the 2nd instar, so one molt from ewl to 1st instar, and then another molt from 1st instar to 2nd instar. A tupperware with plenty of ventilation and some damp coffee filters make a great incubator! This video has some good instructional footage:

After they reach 2nd instar, they will be ready to eat and go to new homes. This is also typically when they begin cannibalisation, although it can happen earlier on. My sac never ended up hatching so I can't give you any hands on advice here, but I hope this helps!

Geez that's a lot earlier than I thought.

 

[Arachnophobphile]

Yup, we have 3 staff members at the rescue and get about 3-6 volunteers 3 times a week to help out. Definitely a task that I'm gonna spend a couple hours on a day to make sure everything's going well.

Excellent