-Techniques for "curing" wild pest roaches for culturing them?

CockroachYet

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-Hello all, are some techniques for "curing" wild pest roaches for culturing them?
-These roaches will be collected at random within citizen spots.
-I refer for "curing" to the act of cleaning them (if it is possible) of parasities, fungus, or any other thing which may ill their optimum health state for a long term captive breeding.
-Some possible species are: P. americana, B. germanica, B. orientalis, etc.
-Thank you very much in advance for your help comments.
-Best regards.
 

bugmankeith

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I dont think there is any, but if your keeping them in a cleaner environment then I guess they wont have as many diseases after a week or two.
 

rag

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this is just an idea. keep a male and a female in a container, when the female becomes gravid and fat separate her, wait for the young to be born and separate them from the mother from birth.

i assume this way the mother will not be able to pass on any parasites/disease/etc to her young because she wont be exposed to them for prolonged periods... unless the illness is passed through birth...

$0.02

goodluck!
 

CockroachYet

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-Hello, thank you very much to both for your reply, so I will use sweet jars for only individual pairs within a very clean medium at first stage of culturing.
-Thank you, best regards.
 

KennyGee

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i would say no its not possible, There may be somekind of genetic desiease and cant be removed by breeding another generation. Your better off just buying a small culture of domesticly breed roach.

8ball, you made me pee my pants {D
 

Code Monkey

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I used to work with the Urban Entomology group at Virginia Tech and cultured quite a large number of pest roaches:

There is no "cleaning" period, you just quarantine them from your established cultures for a couple generations in the case of germans. In the case of large cockroaches like americans, we never even did that, we'd just keep them separate for a few weeks to evaluate their health.
 

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-Hello, many thanks to all you for your reply, Iwill take advise of.
-Evil Cheshire, is so because unfortunatelly here are very scarce or hard to obtain a domesticated culture of them.
-Here, the only domesticated and easy to obtain species is the Giant Madagascan Hissing Roach (G portentosa), but I want to enjoy of more healthed roaches species in my terrariums, and the nearest alternative are the local pest roaches and maybe some native tropical roaches, but all must be collected outdoors.
-Maybe some alternative is importing them from USA or Canada, but I was readed about the law-problems for both exporting and importing invertebrates in USA, which may be a trouble for ship these to Mexico for my hobby.
-Thank you, best regards.
 

Code Monkey

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We reared the small roaches like B. germanica is medium sized rubbermaid type bins. A large hole was cut in the top and mesh hotglued over it for ventilation. Escapes were prevented with a band of petroleum jelly mixed with mineral oil. We just used corrugated cardboard for the harborage and changed it out every couple of months as it became soiled. Rearing B. germanica in large numbers is labor intensive: although they're the number one pest roach, in the high humidity that occurs in these sorts of rearing conditions they are prone to a fungal (yeast) infection that acts in them sort of like lots of fat in our bloodstream and they can sicken and die. Because of this, it's important to clean out the dead and frass weekly. They're really not a good roach to try and rear in captivity unless you just have nothing better to do.

P. americana and similar roaches are much easier. You can rear them in the sort of set up you see for dubia or discoidales, e.g. http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=21978. You will, however, need to use fluon, which is expensive, in a band around the top in order to prevent escapes as they can climb smooth glass and plastic with ease.

All that said, these roaches have rather strong odors associated with rearing them, escape easily, and are often not accepted readily as feeders. But, if you want to try them, knock yourself out :)
 

CockroachYet

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-Code Monkey: THANK YOU VERY MUCH for all great information you add in your reply. I will take advise of this.
-KennyGee: very interesting your comment about genetic ill condition, very difficul to improving it disease situation.
-Thank you, best regards.
 
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