Super worm loose in the cage. Issue?

PhilMcWonder

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I dropped a superworm in front of my T and the freaking thing burrowed before she could catch it... Jesus that thing digs fast. Anyways its under the ground now. long gone. will this become an issue later or will the thing die eventually? I figure maybe it will re surface later but I don't know...
 

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You have to get it out...it will not die, it will remain dormant till a food source presents its self, then it will emerge as a big black beetle....the next food source will be when your t molts.
In the future, crush the head before feeding....same goes for mealies and dubia....it doesnt kill the feeder, but it prevents them from burrowing.
 
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It could be an issue. The worm can resurface and eat or injure the tarantula
 

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I dropped a superworm in front of my T and the freaking thing burrowed before she could catch it... Jesus that thing digs fast. Anyways its under the ground now. long gone. will this become an issue later or will the thing die eventually? I figure maybe it will re surface later but I don't know...
Is this in your Avic's cage? Feeding Avics (or any other strictly-arboreal species) superworms is a huge pain, due to the fact that they hardly ever get on the ground and are unlikely to find it. I reserve them for when the T is well established and I can drop the worm in a web rather than onto substrate.

It's less of a concern for Avicularia since even when they molt they never get on the ground, but it could still pose a hazard to your T if it does happen to molt anywhere near the ground. Superworms are voracious with very strong mandibles that'd make quick work of a soft and vulnerable molting T. It could easily thrive in that enclosure, so I don't see it dying any time soon. I'd fish it out of there if you can locate it.

In the future, it may help to crush the head of the superworm before dropping it in. Doesn't kill it immediately, and stops the blasted thing from burrowing. :penguin:

You have to get it out...it will not die, it will remain dormant till a food source presents its self, then it will emerge as a big black beetle....the next foid source will be when your t molts.
In the future, crush the head before feeding....same goes for mealies and dubia....it doesnt kill the feeder, but it prevents them from burrowing.
That image is heartbreaking. Great (but sad) example for why you don't leave live feeders loose in an enclosure - not even something as seemingly harmless as a mealworm.
 
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I will definitely dig it even if it disturb the T, better safe than sorry.
 

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yes it is very bad that is is in there, head crush next time, super worms are better for an animal that will tong feed like a terrestrial, if not removed it will come back as a beetle and devour you T into nothing, saw a vide of this cant find it but all that was left was the carapace and a few legs.
How do I find it? its a 10 gallon tank...
take the T out, and dig out the worm.

also, live crickets are better, my arboreal: p. metallica, will only eat those and will refuse a worm.
 
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How do I find it? its a 10 gallon tank...
Empty and start over...there is rarely an easy way.
next time, super worms are better for an animal that will tong feed like a terrestrial
Im not a fan of traditional tong feeding for any t....but I do things a bit differrent...because I utilize sterilite tubs, i can ventilate with a drill bit thats larger than a superworm....so when i feed almost any t, i just hold the worm by the t and let them take it....more of an untraditional tong feed, but in a way that a t cant damage its fangs on a tweezers....its a ridicolously easy way to feed ts....they dont want to eat, fine, i dont need to re capture the feeder, just drop it back in the container of feeders.
 

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Empty and start over...there is rarely an easy way.


Im not a fan of traditional tong feeding for any t....but I do things a bit differrent...because I utilize sterilite tubs, i can ventilate with a drill bit thats larger than a superworm....so when i feed almost any t, i just hold the worm by the t and let them take it....more of an untraditional tong feed, but in a way that a t cant damage its fangs on a tweezers....its a ridicolously easy way to feed ts....they dont want to eat, fine, i dont need to re capture the feeder, just drop it back in the container of feeders.
yes a broken fang can be bad, so I try to hold the worms by one end and let the T bite the further end. maybe this is a bad method idk nothing bad has happened yet.
 

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Soooo.... I need help. My T is new. she is a pet store Pink toe. I'm scared to move her because I don't think she has settled in yet. How can I get her out of the cage calmly? I dont want het to run off and I dont want to get a face full of hairs.
 

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How do I find it? its a 10 gallon tank.
This is going to sound like one crazy idea, prob no one will recommend it, but you MIGHT just consider emptying the tank to find it. :rolleyes:

Soooo.... I need help. My T is new. she is a pet store Pink toe. I'm scared to move her because I don't think she has settled in yet. How can I get her out of the cage calmly? I dont want het to run off and I dont want to get a face full of hairs.

Google the bag transfer method. You sound overly worried and that puts your T in danger.

maybe this is a bad method
It is.
 
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This is going to sound like one crazy idea, prob no one will recommend it, but you MIGHT just consider emptying the tank to find it. :rolleyes:
Honestly? I'm afraid to... She has only been in there 3 days and is still settling in. She only started building a web today. She is from Petsmart so not the most socialized spider. I want her to feel comfortable in her new home and I think she will freak out and bolt of I disturb her. I am not ready to hold my T either because I never held one before and she is still a little jumpy...
 

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She has only been in there 3 days and is still settling in.
And she will settle back in when the change is done...its not a big deal, especially this early.....I mean, she's 3 days in.
She only started building a web today.
And she will start again tomorrow...the t has no job and an unlimited amount of web it can make.
She is from Petsmart so not the most socialized spider.
Spiders are not social animals, no t is "socialized".
I want her to feel comfortable in her new home and I think she will freak out and bolt of I disturb her.
Ts have no feelings or emotions. Avics tend to bolt in short bursts, its not likely run across the room or go far.

Just do things in the bathtub, this will give you the open space you need to be more confident.
I am not ready to hold my T either because I never held one before and she is still a little jumpy
There is never a need to hold any t, that wouldn't be the right way to go about things.

Its as easy as a catch cup.

Take a 32oz deli cup, or something that size, put it over the front of the t and touch its backside...it will walk right in and you can cap the deli cup and do the searching you need to do.

You may even be able to remove sub around the wood and plant structure and locate it without even messing her new webbing up.....but if not, starting over is a real non-issue.
 

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Honestly? I'm afraid to... She has only been in there 3 days and is still settling in. She only started building a web today. She is from Petsmart so not the most socialized spider. I want her to feel comfortable in her new home and I think she will freak out and bolt of I disturb her. I am not ready to hold my T either because I never held one before and she is still a little jumpy...
Your T is better off being disturbed now, rather than after it settles in IME. Socialized? Have no idea what you are talking about there, they aren't social animals.

Who said you need to hold a T? If you bought a T to hold as a pet, just return the animal and get a dog or lizard etc. Ts are not animals to hold. Ts are wild animals and do not benefit from holding.

If you are referring to hold in the context of removing etc, there's no need to hold a T for a rehouse. I've never held a T for a rehouse with the small exception of E sp Red, and T cyane.
 

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You could try placing a slice of apple in the tank and checking under it every couple of hours to see if the superworm took the bait. Personally though I would bite the bullet and empty the tank.
 

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Socialized refers to how use they are to "human" activity. A well socialized T may still want nothing to do with you but they are less likely to respond negatively to you disturbing their enclosure.
They dont need to be held or interacted with at all... in fact they may hate that... Just enough activity to understand the giant hand in the cage that is grabbing the water bowl isn't here to hurt them. "Unsocialized" Tarantulas often don't receive regular maintenance and care (sadly the case for some tarantulas from big name pet stores, depending on the store)

Socialized isn't exactly the right choice of words. Its just the words I know.
 

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alright fine, I'll just drop the dead worm from now on...dont want to risk broken fangs.
You can do whatever you want. If it dies, that's your fault. We won't lose sleep over it.

Just could never figure out why all those crazy people on YouTube insist upon spoon feeding an animal that was eating on its own LONG, LONG before humans arrived. It boggles the mind why humans think they need help??? o_O

I know it sounds crazy, but they are actually good at hunting. I bet you could publish a paper on it hah ;)
 
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UPDATE! Tank is empty. no sign of the worm. hopefully thrown out with the ground material

No sign of it on on the wood or plants. Cage rebuilt AND improved :embarrassed: NOW with more area to climb and free of Super Worm.
 
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UPDATE! Tank is empty. no sign of the worm. hopefully thrown out with the ground material

No sign of it on on the wood or plants. Cage rebuilt AND improved :embarrassed: NOW with more area to climb and free of Super Worm.
On the bright side this was a good lesson to learn now rather than 6 months down the line. Good luck with your new T
 
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