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It seems to me this is something many people on AB could contribute to.
Stress can be very serious and all too often overlooked problem with animals but especially with animals that exhibit little or no symptoms. Spiders often display no visible outward signs of being stressed unless the keeper is not only highly experienced but has a wide frame of reference to compare to.
In humans, stress can be very difficult to diagnose. Often extensive interviews and subtle physiological alterations are all the experts have to go on in diagnosing stress. PTSD is a typical example, with diagnostics still in their infancy.
With spiders, if a keeper doesn't know the animal and it's habits under many circumstances, conditions and habitats, stress may be entirely over-looked.
We have recently had a dramatic increase in the wild population of Nephila in the surrounding area and only by comparing numerous individual spiders have I been able to identify stress or potential stress conditions. This has been a rather startling eye opener for me. Nephila Pilipes typifies and exemplifies this problem.
The young adult Pilipes will triple to quadruple it's size within 1 month under ideal conditions. From about 1/2" in body length to nearly 2 inches. For many experienced keepers, those who really know Nephila, this may seem to be extremely unusual but has become a fact in my studying them. I have the advantage of having one lovely lady right outside my wife's office I have been closely observing that is serving as a control - ideal conditions. Pesticides are banned from the premises, her web is in a very stable location, and right next to a stagnant water canal, food is in abundance. I first noticed her, a typical nearing maturity juvenile, the second week of December. Yesterday I spent a half hour carefully estimating her size. She is exemplary of the Pilipes population here. We have another in our back yard displaying similar growth but she is out over the river and I need wings if I want to closely observe her.
So let's examine stress causes.
-Temperature
-Humidity
-Environment stability
Three obvious basics. But not enough to base a hypothesis on.
-Diurnal/nocturnal cycles
-Presence of competitors
-Correct food in correct quantities
-Toxins in the environment
-Toxins in the food
-Over feeding
And I'm sure experienced keepers could add to this list. And they all can have an effect.
Think an ideal envelope. You have a spider, it matures, lives out an uneventful life then eventually dies. How do you know it lived under ideal circumstances? Ordinarily the only indicator we have to go by is age. But age can be very deceptive. In the case of Pilipes they live one year. But is that one year spent fully thriving or just barely hanging on? With our local Pilipes, going by individual size, it appears only one out of about 10 put on a major growth spurt and will spend the majority of it's life span as a full sized adult. Most of the individuals I see around here barely get more than 1 inch in length.
So how can we tell the difference between just surviving and living their lives to the max? Thoughts?
Stress can be very serious and all too often overlooked problem with animals but especially with animals that exhibit little or no symptoms. Spiders often display no visible outward signs of being stressed unless the keeper is not only highly experienced but has a wide frame of reference to compare to.
In humans, stress can be very difficult to diagnose. Often extensive interviews and subtle physiological alterations are all the experts have to go on in diagnosing stress. PTSD is a typical example, with diagnostics still in their infancy.
With spiders, if a keeper doesn't know the animal and it's habits under many circumstances, conditions and habitats, stress may be entirely over-looked.
We have recently had a dramatic increase in the wild population of Nephila in the surrounding area and only by comparing numerous individual spiders have I been able to identify stress or potential stress conditions. This has been a rather startling eye opener for me. Nephila Pilipes typifies and exemplifies this problem.
The young adult Pilipes will triple to quadruple it's size within 1 month under ideal conditions. From about 1/2" in body length to nearly 2 inches. For many experienced keepers, those who really know Nephila, this may seem to be extremely unusual but has become a fact in my studying them. I have the advantage of having one lovely lady right outside my wife's office I have been closely observing that is serving as a control - ideal conditions. Pesticides are banned from the premises, her web is in a very stable location, and right next to a stagnant water canal, food is in abundance. I first noticed her, a typical nearing maturity juvenile, the second week of December. Yesterday I spent a half hour carefully estimating her size. She is exemplary of the Pilipes population here. We have another in our back yard displaying similar growth but she is out over the river and I need wings if I want to closely observe her.
So let's examine stress causes.
-Temperature
-Humidity
-Environment stability
Three obvious basics. But not enough to base a hypothesis on.
-Diurnal/nocturnal cycles
-Presence of competitors
-Correct food in correct quantities
-Toxins in the environment
-Toxins in the food
-Over feeding
And I'm sure experienced keepers could add to this list. And they all can have an effect.
Think an ideal envelope. You have a spider, it matures, lives out an uneventful life then eventually dies. How do you know it lived under ideal circumstances? Ordinarily the only indicator we have to go by is age. But age can be very deceptive. In the case of Pilipes they live one year. But is that one year spent fully thriving or just barely hanging on? With our local Pilipes, going by individual size, it appears only one out of about 10 put on a major growth spurt and will spend the majority of it's life span as a full sized adult. Most of the individuals I see around here barely get more than 1 inch in length.
So how can we tell the difference between just surviving and living their lives to the max? Thoughts?
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