Spider ID?

[Greg Pelka]

I found in in my bath
What specie is it? It is above 1cm long.


Regards
Greg

 

[Jonathan]

Hi,
Just a guess, but I'm thinking maybe Gnaphosidae. A more accurate description may be made w/ a shot of spinneretes. What do you think?
Jon

 

[Gigas]

Hi,
Just a guess, but I'm thinking maybe Gnaphosidae. A more accurate description may be made w/ a shot of spinneretes. What do you think?
Jon

I completely agree, more commonly known as "mouse spiders"(not like australian mouse spiders) i am keeping one now, they prefer to wonder around and will setup temporary shelters wherever they can, this summer during the heat wave, i counted 20 running through different areas of my house

 

[Greg Pelka]

Thanx
What are spinneretes?

Greg

 

[Gigas]

the thing that the spider makes web with, at the end of the abdomen

 

[David_F]

I'd say it looks more like a Dysdera sp. but since the chelicerae are hidden and I can't count the eyes I wouldn't say that positively. The patella of leg IV (and the structure of all the legs in general) seems to match that of Dysdera more closely than a Gnaphosid but I don't know if that means anything. Nice looking spider though.

Then again, it does kinda look like a Gnaphosid....

 

[Gigas]

i will agree with that your leg comment David, but i have 2 Gnaphosid's which are near identical to this one, the large one is quite alot darker but is near 2 cm legspan and a tiny one, both have a near identical leg and body structure, is there a sp in dyderidae without the tell tale chelicerae?

 

[David_F]

is there a sp in dyderidae without the tell tale chelicerae?

Don't know, really. A few pics I've seen of D. crocata in a similar position to the one in the OP make the chelicerae seem smaller than they actually are. If we could see the chelicerae and get a good eye count we could probably figure it out pretty quickly. Since you've actually got similar spiders though you're probably closer than I am.

 

[Gigas]

Just a quick blurry pic of one i have, these things never stop moving

 

[Greg Pelka]

some more pics:




mayby it could help:>

Greg

 

[Gigas]

Looking at the eye structure i would say thats a definate dysderidae hats off to you David

 

[Jonathan]

Hey,
After someone mentioned Dysderids, I did some research, and was swayed in the first pic by how the keep there first three pair of legs forward. Then definitely w/ the eye pattern. Also, they are more common throughout Europe.
Good call!!
Jon