South African illegal T's

[Tarantula dude]

So i have been looking for Tarantulas that are illegal In SA(South Africa) and i have come up empty handed. It seems to be predominantly only ingenious species , but i'd like to know more if possible. There are certain baboon Tarantulas we are allowed to keep and other not. So if anyone could shed some light on the topic it would be much appreciated. I don't feel like getting a fine for keeping an illegal T.

 

[TownesVanZandt]

You should ask @lalberts9310 . I´m sure she can provide you with some information regarding that

 

[Tarantula dude]

You should ask @lalberts9310 . I´m sure she can provide you with some information regarding that

Thank you very much!

 

[viper69]

t seems to be predominantly only ingenious species

You have some pretty clever species over there it sounds.

 

[Red Eunice]

You have some pretty clever species over there it sounds.

I'm sure he meant "indigenous ".
Funny nonetheless.
@lalberts9310 would be best to answer this question. I recall a thread, some time ago, about the need for a permit/license to keep non native species legally. Hopefully you'll get a response soon.

 

[viper69]

IF @Ceratogyrus is around he would be the best to answer, followed by @lalberts9310

As I recall, S. African's need a permit for each species, native too, and a permit to breed as well for each species. There are species from S. Africa that we own, but natives need a permit for!

 

[Chris LXXIX]

If i'm not wrong you can't keep the native (South Africa) Theraphosidae so, for instance and 'Baboon' talking only, a S.calceatum? Yes. A Pterinochilus murinus? No, without a permit.

I remember that once i've asked lalberts9310 something like that, and she told me that certain, non South African 'Baboons', are perfectly legal to keep if i'm not wrong, such H.gigas etc

 

[Chris LXXIX]

So if i'm right and remember well, the Goddess 0.1 Pelinobius muticus PBUH (Peace Be Upon Her) is perfectly legal in S.A
Praise the Goddess :-s

 

[Tarantula dude]

If i'm not wrong you can't keep the native (South Africa) Theraphosidae so, for instance and 'Baboon' talking only, a S.calceatum? Yes. A Pterinochilus murinus? No, without a permit.

I remember that once i've asked lalberts9310 something like that, and she told me that certain, non South African 'Baboons', are perfectly legal to keep if i'm not wrong, such H.gigas etc

What they have now done is banned the entire species so the p.murinus is off limits for us... The H.gigas is fair play old enough

 

[Chris LXXIX]

What they have now done is banned the entire species so the p.murinus is off limits for us... The H.gigas is fair play old enough

Well, as far as i know you need a permit for those (now obviously don't know the details of that etc) but at least, other non S.A 'Baboons' are ok. Bit of solace :-s

 

[Tarantula dude]

Well, as far as i know you need a permit for those (now obviously don't know the details of that etc) but at least, other non S.A 'Baboons' are ok. Bit of solace :-s

I found a little info on this. The OBT needs a permit as well not because it's ingenious , but because it belongs to the genus. So only the species that do not occur in SA are legal without apermit. I want to get a permit , but that costs money and my money is being used on getting more T's.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

I want to get a permit , but that costs money and my money is being used on getting more T's.

Well of course. That's a wise, fair enough statement, man. Irony, IMO... if you think that P.murinus are cheap as hell, and worldwide talking, ah ah... to pay load of money for get the regular papers only for owning one it's crazyness, sadly.

 

[Tarantula dude]

Well of course. That's a wise, fair enough statement, man. Irony, IMO... if you think that P.murinus are cheap as hell, and worldwide talking, ah ah... to pay load of money for get the regular papers only for owning one it's crazyness, sadly.

But an up side is that if i obtain a permit i can go into my back yard find a species . Get a male/female and captive breed them to sell over sea. But thats a massive BUT.

 

[BobBarley]

The OBT needs a permit as well not because it's ingenious , but because it belongs to the genus.

Didn't know the OBT was known to be so wise. Added to the wishlist!

 

[Tarantula dude]

Didn't know the OBT was known to be so wise. Added to the wishlist!

Seems like i went on a little rhyming spree.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

But an up side is that if i obtain a permit i can go into my back yard find a species . Get a male/female and captive breed them to sell over sea. But thats a massive BUT.

Well, but let's say... you obtain from S.A authorities the permit for keep P.murinus. You breed those, but (technically, and following S.A laws about) you can't sold slings to others S.A keepers (unless they have the permit as well) am i right?

Plus, in the case of the common 'orange' classic 'OBT' one, IMO the market, worldwide speaking, is full of those.

I think that, S.A 'Baboon' talking, what the market will love are the H.lightfooti and the others, not so famous, quite rare 'Baboons'.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Didn't know the OBT was known to be so wise. Added to the wishlist!

Uh, they are IMO ah ah. That's the funny thing

 

[Tarantula dude]

Well, but let's say... you obtain from S.A authorities the permit for keep P.murinus. You breed those, but (technically, and following S.A laws about) you can't sold slings to others S.A keepers (unless they have the permit as well) am i right?

Plus, in the case of the common 'orange' classic 'OBT' one, IMO the market, worldwide speaking, is full of those. my country is giving me grey hairs at a very young age. m

I think that, S.A 'Baboon' talking, what the market will love are the H.lightfooti and the others, not so famous, quite rare 'Baboons'.

I'll need an export permit aswell... Honestly my country is giving me grey hairs at such a young age... I just want a permit to keep local species. Nothing more nothing less. Breeding them would be an upside . However i would only be able to export then. My main goal for a permit would be to help conserve the species.

 

[lalberts9310]

Any genera with species indigenous to SA are illegal to keep (except for Harpactirella spp. as far as I know, since I have seen reputable breeders sell Harpactirella to the public).

ALL species from the following genera are illegal to keep:

Harpactira spp.
Augacephalus spp.
Ceratogyrus spp.
Trichognathella spp.
Brachionopus spp.
Pterinochillus spp.
Idiothele spp.

You won't only receive a fine if you keep these without permit, as far as I know, your whole collection can be confiscated (even tarantulas that are legal to keep).

Baboons such as Heteroscodra, Hesterocrates, Monocentropus etc. (which you can buy from breeders) are legal to keep as these genera don't have species indigenous to SA.

 

[lalberts9310]

I'll need an export permit aswell... Honestly my country is giving me grey hairs at such a young age... I just want a permit to keep local species. Nothing more nothing less. Breeding them would be an upside . However i would only be able to export then. My main goal for a permit would be to help conserve the species.

Importing tarantulas is impossible. I THINK the same goes for exporting indigenous tarantulas or generally all tarantulas regardless.