Shocking case of domestic violence

[Tentacle Toast]

Grizzly scene, not sure what went wrong.
Had a beautiful little female P regius, & upon visiting a local pet shop a few days back, saw they had a male. Set him up next to the female, & they immediately took an interest in one another, dancing around, & tapping at each other. So a little while ago, & after having fed them both yesterday, I introduced him into her enclosure, & they seemed to hit it off; she came out of her little nook immediately, & he danced for....but then about ~7-8 minutes in, I received a call that took me out of the room. I was out for not even a full 10 minutes, & upon my return, HE was eating HER. I have absolutely no idea how this transpired, & unfortunately I can't provide pictures.
Not really sure why I'm making this thread, as I haven't even figured out what questions to ask. Walking back to the room, I said to myself "watch her be making a meal of him." Imagine my surprise...

 

[birdonfire]

You left the room for too long. P. regius is jumping spider.

 

[SpookySpooder]

Sounds more like a case of parental neglect, you might actually be the one facing charges.

You mentioned leaving the vicinity for about 10 minutes while your children were unsupervised in the pool?

Speak into the recorder please

 

[jbooth]

You sure they didn't give you an audax lol

 

[Tentacle Toast]

Just a disaster, utterly incompetent move on my part.

 

[jbooth]

Crap happens. I learned something cohabbing my carolinensis; females will take a burrow upgrade by force. Had them together all night, both enclosures in an 18" cube. My male had a proper burrow with a turret, whole 9 yards. My female did not. I woke up in the morning and checked on them, "oh you guys are fine, be right back", and went to the bathroom. When I came back into the room he was limbless being dragged into the burrow like it had been hers all along. Felt pretty crappy but it was still an interesting dynamic to see.

 

[Tentacle Toast]

Crap happens. I learned something cohabbing my carolinensis; females will take a burrow upgrade by force. Had them together all night, both enclosures in an 18" cube. My male had a proper burrow with a turret, whole 9 yards. My female did not. I woke up in the morning and checked on them, "oh you guys are fine, be right back", and went to the bathroom. When I came back into the room he was limbless being dragged into the burrow like it had been hers all along. Felt pretty crappy but it was still an interesting dynamic to see.

Yeah, but you still feel awful for it. Lessons learned, etc, but still...that's the type of thing that makes you NOT want to have a drink on a Friday night.

Was interesting to see, though, as you said; sincerely figured it'd be the male eaten, though..this was unexpected. Considered bringing them with me, but in that moment wondered if that would have hurt his odds even more. Imagine my shock seeing HER being consumed...

 

[jbooth]

Yeah, but you still feel awful for it. Lessons learned, etc, but still...that's the type of thing that makes you NOT want to have a drink on a Friday night.

Was interesting to see, though, as you said; sincerely figured it'd be the male eaten, though..this was unexpected. Considered bringing them with me, but in that moment wondered if that would have hurt his odds even more. Imagine my shock seeing HER being consumed...

Yup. From what I've heard, jumpers are usually pretty good, people cohab them for long periods sometimes, basically just keep them together. Probably eventually the male gets eaten but never heard of the female until now.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

Yeah, but you still feel awful for it. Lessons learned, etc, but still...that's the type of thing that makes you NOT want to have a drink on a Friday night.

Was interesting to see, though, as you said; sincerely figured it'd be the male eaten, though..this was unexpected. Considered bringing them with me, but in that moment wondered if that would have hurt his odds even more. Imagine my shock seeing HER being consumed...

Was he bigger than her that’s strange? Bad luck I guess.

Grizzly scene, not sure what went wrong.
Had a beautiful little female P regius, & upon visiting a local pet shop a few days back, saw they had a male. Set him up next to the female, & they immediately took an interest in one another, dancing around, & tapping at each other. So a little while ago, & after having fed them both yesterday, I introduced him into her enclosure, & they seemed to hit it off; she came out of her little nook immediately, & he danced for....but then about ~7-8 minutes in, I received a call that took me out of the room. I was out for not even a full 10 minutes, & upon my return, HE was eating HER. I have absolutely no idea how this transpired, & unfortunately I can't provide pictures.
Not really sure why I'm making this thread, as I haven't even figured out what questions to ask. Walking back to the room, I said to myself "watch her be making a meal of him." Imagine my surprise...

Crazy bad luck

 

[Charliemum]

I have heard of males coming out on top after a fight when the female has tried to grab him during the dance, it's rare but does happen unfortunately, shouldn't imagine its an easy thing though n I am sorry for your loss . I doubt there would have been much you could do though tbh even if u were there they move so quickly and are so small I doubt there would have been time for you to react. Jumper females are actually super harsh on males and some are extremely picky one wrong move in the males dance and that's it he is dinner... unfortunately for your girl your male clearly wasn't happy with that decision.

 

[Tentacle Toast]

Was he bigger than her that’s strange? Bad luck I guess.

Crazy bad luck

No, if anything, she has a slight size advantage on him, which made it all the more surprising.

I have heard of males coming out on top after a fight when the female has tried to grab him during the dance, it's rare but does happen unfortunately, shouldn't imagine its an easy thing though n I am sorry for your loss . I doubt there would have been much you could do though tbh even if u were there they move so quickly and are so small I doubt there would have been time for you to react. Jumper females are actually super harsh on males and some are extremely picky one wrong move in the males dance and that's it he is dinner... unfortunately for your girl your male clearly wasn't happy with that decision.

Well thank you kindly, I appreciate it. Was actually my first shot at "breeding" spiders...hope it doesn't set the tone for future "projects," to be sure...

 

[Charliemum]

No, if anything, she has a slight size advantage on him, which made it all the more surprising.

Well thank you kindly, I appreciate it. Was actually my first shot at "breeding" spiders...hope it doesn't set the tone for future "projects," to be sure...

You'll get there just remember read/ watch any breeding reports you can find n put the full day aside because sometimes it takes the males a while to wake up, mute your phone n then your sorted. I don't breed my t's yet but my SO has been breeding spiders & t's 30+ years and I have done tones of research for him in the time we have been a couple. I also did alot of research on breeding jumpers as my regius girl Button made a dud sac and I thought I may breed her but decided against it when I read for myself how wrong it can go not just with the actual breeding but with the baby's after, they are exceptionally small and difficult to keep alive.
But point being am sure you'll get there and this won't be the tone for the future now you are better prepared and know what to expect, we learn from our mistakes, move on n try againi have got every faith

 

[8 legged]

Sounds more like a case of parental neglect, you might actually be the one facing charges.

You mentioned leaving the vicinity for about 10 minutes while your children were unsupervised in the pool?

Speak into the recorder please

A bit self-righteous.
This happens as it happens in the wild. Personally, I don't use tweezers during matings to stress the animals even more; That's just a You-Tube legend and has less to do with knowledge!

 

[SpookySpooder]

A bit self-righteous.
This happens as it happens in the wild. Personally, I don't use tweezers during matings to stress the animals even more; That's just a You-Tube legend and has less to do with knowledge!

Nah, just a joke. They don't always land/aren't as funny as they sound in my head

Others have done worse, notably letting MF's munch on MM's because they were fidgeting for camera angles.

YouTube Legends, lol

 

[Tentacle Toast]

You'll get there just remember read/ watch any breeding reports you can find n put the full day aside because sometimes it takes the males a while to wake up, mute your phone n then your sorted. I don't breed my t's yet but my SO has been breeding spiders & t's 30+ years and I have done tones of research for him in the time we have been a couple. I also did alot of research on breeding jumpers as my regius girl Button made a dud sac and I thought I may breed her but decided against it when I read for myself how wrong it can go not just with the actual breeding but with the baby's after, they are exceptionally small and difficult to keep alive.
But point being am sure you'll get there and this won't be the tone for the future now you are better prepared and know what to expect, we learn from our mistakes, move on n try againi have got every faith

I have no interest or intention of breeding my Ts. I had that little jumper for a few weeks, & when I saw a male at another shop, I figured I'd give em' a chance at love. Honestly thought it'd be interesting, as I've enjoyed videos of their little dance moves.
Spot on advise, though. If I ever seriously considered it, it'd be MUCH more researched & concerted effort. Guess the other lesson to be learned is not to take even the smallest spider matters lightly.

 

[darkness975]

I remember being a child and watching a documentary on scorpions that was on Discovery Channel and one of the lines I still remember to this day is "In a battle between two scorpions size does not determine the outcome. Larger animals can be defeated by smaller opponents." That was a shock to me as a little one because you grow up listening to "adults" and other totally reliable sources that basically state larger animals win conflicts by default.

Same thing with fish keeping. As a kid it took me a while to come to terms with the fact that a noticeably smaller in size animal can be dominant and bully much larger specimens that are less boisterous or aggressive.

 

[Tentacle Toast]

I remember being a child and watching a documentary on scorpions that was on Discovery Channel and one of the lines I still remember to this day is "In a battle between two scorpions size does not determine the outcome. Larger animals can be defeated by smaller opponents." That was a shock to me as a little one because you grow up listening to "adults" and other totally reliable sources that basically state larger animals win conflicts by default.

Same thing with fish keeping. As a kid it took me a while to come to terms with the fact that a noticeably smaller in size animal can be dominant and bully much larger specimens that are less boisterous or aggressive.

My Sifu's favorite line is "it ain't the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.."
That she was bigger than him only made my surprise bigger, considering the generally expected outcome in these "dinner & a date" scenarios.

 

[SpookySpooder]

My Sifu's favorite line is "it ain't the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.."
That she was bigger than him only made my surprise bigger, considering the generally expected outcome in these "dinner & a date" scenarios.

I had to spar 18-40 year olds as a 14 year old because none of the other 12-17 year old students could keep up.

I never won a single match, but I got a few good hits in here and there.

Now if I had a poison stinger, I'm sure I'd have won a few.

Another example: I got a wild little kitty who's about 10 pounds. I don't trust that little bugger around my fingers when he gets wide eyed and starts goobering.

Even at his size he could do some serious damage. I've been bitten by a one once and the fangs went straight through my palm and met each other inside my hand.

Not fun.

Never underestimate size.

Honey badger is another classic example.

 

[Tentacle Toast]

I had to spar 18-40 year olds as a 14 year old...

Funny, I had to spar a 14yo once...

...I never won a single match, but I got a few good hits in here and there.

SHE didn't win either, but I NEVER would have even come close to imagining her being that capable...LoLoL