Red runner roach escape

Nephaleim

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Hi!
Today I got a box of baby Red Runners, and it seems the plastic box they were in was pretty bad quality... Because it essentially flipped upside down after getting opened.

And a bunch of Runners escaped..

I got as many as I could but so far I saw one in a place I couldn't get to, so I know at least one is on the loose.

I'm looking for some guidance to deal with this. Mind you, none of these roaches were adults, they were still nymphs.
What are the chances of getting an infestation and are there any traps I could set up to catch them?

My room is fairly dusty because the floor is a carpet. Crevices are pretty much full of dust, spiders and such.

I live in the Balkans, and I'm not sure if they could somehow infest the house? How quickly do they grow and reproduce?
Yeah, Im pretty worried.
 

Nephaleim

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Update - I captured one, killed another, and spotted a spider eating another one.

They are (mostly, some are larger) this big:
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Ultum4Spiderz

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Update - I captured one, killed another, and spotted a spider eating another one.

They are (mostly, some are larger) this big:
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Try duct tape , I accidentally killed some 9 of my own roaches with a strip oops..it fell off the thermostat.
Zero chance of infestation they will dehydrate or starve. I wish my roaches came in plastic containers lol 😂…. Nope , yet I had no escapes Although one. NEarly did I caught it.
 

jbooth

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Roach traps.. black widows and escaped wolf spiderlings are fairly useful, that and squishing them when you see them. I wouldn't worry too much unless it's around 80f or over and they can find moisture and humid spots for ooths. And food. I tipped a few the other night, still playing whack-a-mole
 

Ultum4Spiderz

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Hi!
Today I got a box of baby Red Runners, and it seems the plastic box they were in was pretty bad quality... Because it essentially flipped upside down after getting opened.

And a bunch of Runners escaped..

I got as many as I could but so far I saw one in a place I couldn't get to, so I know at least one is on the loose.

I'm looking for some guidance to deal with this. Mind you, none of these roaches were adults, they were still nymphs.
What are the chances of getting an infestation and are there any traps I could set up to catch them?

My room is fairly dusty because the floor is a carpet. Crevices are pretty much full of dust, spiders and such.

I live in the Balkans, and I'm not sure if they could somehow infest the house? How quickly do they grow and reproduce?
Yeah, Im pretty worried.
as said above offer them some beer 🍺! :rofl: They might drown in it.
Duck 🦆 tape strips too.
No chance of getting infested no way they can survive outside the bin. Especially as baby’s .
 

mack1855

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Ya,Runner infestation is WAY over blown.In Croatia your to cold and dry for any problems with Runners.I’ve had several escaped adult females,and zero issues.
Most of them were found a month later behind dressers,dried out.And much to dry to hatch any egg cases even if they reached sexual maturity.

I would bet most of the nymphs will be a tasty treat for you house spiders.
 

Kada

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Infestation really depends on your climate. I am very much worried about red runners in my country (Taiwan, tropical and sub tropical climate) as there are already local populations established here. Even in cold climates, warmer species can infest cities because cities are so dense they can hop over buildings (which are tropical like indoors, year round) without the freeze. in the suburbs, or wild, where buildings are separated by the outdoors and there is a winter, less a worry but still should be a worry. nature evolves, take it seriously even if this group of animals at this day doesn’t seem to pose a threat with our current knowledge base.


Either way, regardless of if someone thinks it is a risk or not a risk, it should be basic SOP to at least tub in tub with any species' unboxing in my opinion. Box in box in a cleared out room sealed off is more suitable. Use a shower room with taped off walls and sealed drains is probably a good middle ground of diligence vs. necessity in most households that are unable to do the necessary diligence of dealing with potentially risky species. just to be at least bare minimum careful, the odd time something does get out, it will no doubt trigger society and by proxy government regulation...which people in the pet trade complain about all the time for some reason. Best way to avoid needing to complain about such things is if we, the pet trade, took things much more serious.

Outside of species becoming invasive, a far bigger risk is pathogens (disease and parasites) getting out and spreading with the native fauna. The roaches probably have come across many different species form many different countries. This is a much bigger concern that seems less discussed and even less so preventable given the current pet trades' norms. Be diligent. Us keeping various animals species that may breed quick but also harbor various pathogens should be coupled with the utmost diligence. the price point of being able to buy 1000 cockroaches for 10 bucks isn’t important, the responsibility of being able to not only ethically keep said animals, but also the responsibility of containment. Escapes shouldn’t really happen outside of disasters (fires, earthquakes etc), we need to do everything we can to prevent human error :) The same care should be given to 1 cockroach feeder as one would provide say a thorny devil. Species shouldn’t really dictate amount of effort given towards care, everything should be done right :)
For now, try and kill on sight, in the future however, take every step you can to avoid any escape. Finding them, seen as escape already happened, depends on your house. If you live somewhere cold and don’t have too many pets. perhaps letting the house go cold/dry for months and have a few warm traps with food? I would absolutely take care of it winter while you can before hot temps let them spread further. Also be realistic about how many got out and what size. Good luck, I certainly fear red runner escapes in my house, because they no doubt can establish. I am feeding off he last ones I have because this worry. I also worry about other common feeders like crickets, other roach species etc. If I lived somewhere super cold I would worry less, but still worry about disease and such getting into the wild.
 

Smotzer

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It should be fine, I had a LOT of roaches get out once and nothing bad really ever happened! Look under objects, in blankets, clothes, etc.
 

Ultum4Spiderz

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Infestation really depends on your climate. I am very much worried about red runners in my country (Taiwan, tropical and sub tropical climate) as there are already local populations established here. Even in cold climates, warmer species can infest cities because cities are so dense they can hop over buildings (which are tropical like indoors, year round) without the freeze. in the suburbs, or wild, where buildings are separated by the outdoors and there is a winter, less a worry but still should be a worry. nature evolves, take it seriously even if this group of animals at this day doesn’t seem to pose a threat with our current knowledge base.


Either way, regardless of if someone thinks it is a risk or not a risk, it should be basic SOP to at least tub in tub with any species' unboxing in my opinion. Box in box in a cleared out room sealed off is more suitable. Use a shower room with taped off walls and sealed drains is probably a good middle ground of diligence vs. necessity in most households that are unable to do the necessary diligence of dealing with potentially risky species. just to be at least bare minimum careful, the odd time something does get out, it will no doubt trigger society and by proxy government regulation...which people in the pet trade complain about all the time for some reason. Best way to avoid needing to complain about such things is if we, the pet trade, took things much more serious.

Outside of species becoming invasive, a far bigger risk is pathogens (disease and parasites) getting out and spreading with the native fauna. The roaches probably have come across many different species form many different countries. This is a much bigger concern that seems less discussed and even less so preventable given the current pet trades' norms. Be diligent. Us keeping various animals species that may breed quick but also harbor various pathogens should be coupled with the utmost diligence. the price point of being able to buy 1000 cockroaches for 10 bucks isn’t important, the responsibility of being able to not only ethically keep said animals, but also the responsibility of containment. Escapes shouldn’t really happen outside of disasters (fires, earthquakes etc), we need to do everything we can to prevent human error :) The same care should be given to 1 cockroach feeder as one would provide say a thorny devil. Species shouldn’t really dictate amount of effort given towards care, everything should be done right :)
For now, try and kill on sight, in the future however, take every step you can to avoid any escape. Finding them, seen as escape already happened, depends on your house. If you live somewhere cold and don’t have too many pets. perhaps letting the house go cold/dry for months and have a few warm traps with food? I would absolutely take care of it winter while you can before hot temps let them spread further. Also be realistic about how many got out and what size. Good luck, I certainly fear red runner escapes in my house, because they no doubt can establish. I am feeding off he last ones I have because this worry. I also worry about other common feeders like crickets, other roach species etc. If I lived somewhere super cold I would worry less, but still worry about disease and such getting into the wild.
You won’t find them that cheap here, they’re significantly pricier then 1000 for $10.
They can’t infest a home unless they can find a water &food source and otherwise they just dry up and die.
It should be fine, I had a LOT of roaches get out once and nothing bad really ever happened! Look under objects, in blankets, clothes, etc.
I’ve heard people with fears lobsters roaches can infest but I don’t believe anything can survive outside the roach bin.
 

l4nsky

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With the onset of a cold/dry winter, the small size of the escapees who are vulnerable to dessication, the presence of natural predators, and the lack of resources available to them, I wouldn't worry too much.

Generally speaking, if you don't have a problem with german roaches in your place, you won't have a problem with lateralis becoming established (as german roaches are just as prolific and cosmopolitan, but are more aggressive and will outcompete lateralis in an indoor environment that has sufficient resources).
 

Kada

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You won’t find them that cheap here, they’re significantly pricier then 1000 for $10.
They can’t infest a home unless they can find a water &food source and otherwise they just dry up and die.

I’ve heard people with fears lobsters roaches can infest but I don’t believe anything can survive outside the roach bin.
That depends entirely where you are. If you are in Mexico, Thailand or Hawaii for example. people should take strict precautions.
 
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