Receiving and selling invertebrates native to the Continental United States.

isopodgeek

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Thank you Goliathusdavid and Arthroverts for helping me out with my last questions. However, answers usually prompt more questions. Here are my other questions.

1. Do I need a permit to receive and sell, Ivory, Bumblebee and Scarlet Millipedes? As far as I am concerned, these are native to the United States( correct me if this is false).

2. Do I need a permit to sell Isopods I found outside? The species in question are; Armidilidium Vulgare, Porcelio Scabber, Oniscus asellus and Philoscia muscorum.

3. What is a containment facility?
 

goliathusdavid

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1. Nope! You are good to receive and sell all native and naturalized millipedes within the continental US which presents LOTS of great options :)
2. The general rule is wild caught isopods can be sold WITHIN state only. Any interstate transport would require permits. Some states such as Floria have more stringent regulations, but you should be good in NJ.
3. Containment facilities are usually composed of a single room (occasionally more in institutions) protected by a single two door entrance system designed to protect against escape of possible pest species. If one door is open into the "lock" space or facility itself, regulations stipulate that the other door must be closed. Strict escape proof enclosures are also required (though what that looks like can vary pretty widely). All of this said however, regulations and stipulations for containment facilities can vary depending on what species you are working with, so the best course of action is to probably look at the link attached, and select the genera or families you are interested in.
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ou...t-information/permits/plant-pests/containment

I know all of this can seem really confusing, but it is hard to emphasize just how important these regulations both in terms of protecting agriculture, and, in some cases, protecting people.
 

isopodgeek

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1. Nope! You are good to receive and sell all native and naturalized millipedes within the continental US which presents LOTS of great options :)
2. The general rule is wild caught isopods can be sold WITHIN state only. Any interstate transport would require permits. Some states such as Floria have more stringent regulations, but you should be good in NJ.
3. Containment facilities are usually composed of a single room (occasionally more in institutions) protected by a single two door entrance system designed to protect against escape of possible pest species. If one door is open into the "lock" space or facility itself, regulations stipulate that the other door must be closed. Strict escape proof enclosures are also required (though what that looks like can vary pretty widely). All of this said however, regulations and stipulations for containment facilities can vary depending on what species you are working with, so the best course of action is to probably look at the link attached, and select the genera or families you are interested in.
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ou...t-information/permits/plant-pests/containment

I know all of this can seem really confusing, but it is hard to emphasize just how important these regulations both in terms of protecting agriculture, and, in some cases, protecting people.
Thank you so much! You have really helped me out a lot!
 

isopodgeek

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I just found out that Porcellio Scabber, Armadillidium Vugare, Porcelllionides Prunosus and a few others are native the the United States. That said, I have a question. Can any color morph created in captivity of a native species of Isopod be shipped without a permit? I am in New Jersey If that helps.
 

goliathusdavid

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So unfortunately this is where things get tricky. Even though Porcellio and Armadillidium species are found in most of the US, they are technically naturalized rather than native, as they were introduced. This means that they still require permits (though not a containment facility), regardless of morph. However, I have some good news! As you are in New Jersey it should not be too difficult to collect at least 2 of the three species you listed. I am in PA and have been able to collect a few different species including Porcellio laevis, Porcellio scaber, and Oniscus asselus. And collection and in state selling of these species does NOT require any sort of permitting. Buying or selling out of state however, does.

Isopod law is a pretty weird and rapidly changing landscape, and if I'm honest, not all of the regulations surrounding naturalized species make a lot of sense to me. That said, they are still important to follow so in addition to applying for a permit (which I understand you have already done) I would do some local collecting, so you don't have to worry about them. I have found many species throughout the year under rotting logs or dead leaves, even in parks in urban areas. NJ also is home to both the Pine Barrens (which has some very interesting invert fauna) and part of the Delaware Water Gap, both great places to collect.
Also for more info about isopod law, I recommend the following threads and also The Mantis Menagerie's website:
https://arachnoboards.com/threads/isopod-law.323571/
https://arachnoboards.com/threads/ppq-526s-for-millipedes.336150/#post-3129118
 

isopodgeek

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So unfortunately this is where things get tricky. Even though Porcellio and Armadillidium species are found in most of the US, they are technically naturalized rather than native, as they were introduced. This means that they still require permits (though not a containment facility), regardless of morph. However, I have some good news! As you are in New Jersey it should not be too difficult to collect at least 2 of the three species you listed. I am in PA and have been able to collect a few different species including Porcellio laevis, Porcellio scaber, and Oniscus asselus. And collection and in state selling of these species does NOT require any sort of permitting. Buying or selling out of state however, does.

Isopod law is a pretty weird and rapidly changing landscape, and if I'm honest, not all of the regulations surrounding naturalized species make a lot of sense to me. That said, they are still important to follow so in addition to applying for a permit (which I understand you have already done) I would do some local collecting, so you don't have to worry about them. I have found many species throughout the year under rotting logs or dead leaves, even in parks in urban areas. NJ also is home to both the Pine Barrens (which has some very interesting invert fauna) and part of the Delaware Water Gap, both great places to collect.
Also for more info about isopod law, I recommend the following threads and also The Mantis Menagerie's website:
https://arachnoboards.com/threads/isopod-law.323571/
https://arachnoboards.com/threads/ppq-526s-for-millipedes.336150/#post-3129118
 

isopodgeek

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Thank you. I have been able to find, Porcellio Scabber, Armidilidium Vulgare, Oniscus Asellus and Philoscia muscorum within the last 5 weeks.

What I found interesting is that Porcellio Scabber and Amadillidium Vulgare can only be found under fake rock( used to catch mice) around my apartment complex. The Oniscus asellus and Philoscia muscorum were found in a nearby forest. I couldn’t find any of the species found in an urban environment in the forest and vice versa.

On my last two collection trip , I collected a lot. I found about 100 Philoscia muscorum and over 200 Oniscus asellus. I also found like 15 Stone Centepedes. The real gem I found was the elusive, Giant Fishing Spider. You read that right, was lucky enough to find one under a log.

Thanks to your answer, I am looking to get a hold of some Scarlet, Ivory, or Giant American millipedes soon. I hope to breed and sell them.
 

goliathusdavid

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That is quite the haul! And yes, native millipedes are great. I have a special soft spot for both Narceus and Orthoporus species (though the latter does not breed in captivity).
 
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