Really easy way to rehydrate a T without a conventional ICU(VIDEO)

satanslilhelper

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I had heard about doing this from Paul Becker. My N. chromatus,Pele, had started to curl last week. I kept the waterdish full and tried soaking her enclosure to no avail. So, I put her in what I consider a better option than the normal ICU. This method keeps the T close to a large supply of water to rehydrate it as quick as possible.

The video starts out dark. For this I apologize. I turn on my flashlight at 1:59.

Let me know what you guys think about this method. I hope this helps anyone dealing with a dehydrated T.:D

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Interesting way to do it. I'll probably still opt for the traditional method (hope I never have to though!) until this one is tested a little more. I doubt the T would drown due to the tilt on the enclosure pushing all of the water into one pool and the rest being dry. You would just have to watch it so that it doesn't climb the other side of the container because, with the tip, it'd be much easier to tip over.
 

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He says several times in the vid: He tilts the cup, so the T has a dry spot to go to if it has to. It will also lift it's butt up to keep the book lungs out of the water.
 

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Won't the T drown that way?:?
Nope!! That's why you tilt it like that. They can easily keep their butt out of the water which keeps their book lungs out of the water. Therefore, no drowning. This gives them the opportunity to drink as much water as they need.
 

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Interesting way to do it. I'll probably still opt for the traditional method (hope I never have to though!) until this one is tested a little more. I doubt the T would drown due to the tilt on the enclosure pushing all of the water into one pool and the rest being dry. You would just have to watch it so that it doesn't climb the other side of the container because, with the tip, it'd be much easier to tip over.
It actually has been tested by other hobbyists. I know for a fact that Paul Becker has used this method for quite some time now. It was in talking with him that he suggested this method to me. I didn't need it at the time b/c the T in question wasn't dehydrated. It was missing fangs and couldn't eat.

There are of course ways to keep the T from tipping it over. You could just put something on either side of it or use a something wider than a 2 liter bottle top like I am.
 

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Nope!! That's why you tilt it like that. They can easily keep their butt out of the water which keeps their book lungs out of the water. Therefore, no drowning. This gives them the opportunity to drink as much water as they need.
Ohhh... That makes sense, but what if the T is too weak to even lift it's butt?
 

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Ohhh... That makes sense, but what if the T is too weak to even lift it's butt?
With it tilted like that there is always a dry side. When I first put her in there she would keep her butt on the dry side and plunged her face into the water. Really quite simple when you think about it. They won't let themselves drown.

If it was kept flat then I could see this being an issue.
 

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She's already showing signs of improvement since last night. I'll at least take some pics here in a minute and post them up. I might do a quick update vid as well.
 

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that's funny. i thought you were a girl for some reason



i guess it could be ok... but a spider that lacks the power to move itself to a water dish will also lack the power to move itself out of a puddle that is filling its book lungs


i would probably stick with a traditional icu or go to dropping water on the mouth and would probably skip a flooded container unless i got really lazy one time
 

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that's funny. i thought you were a girl for some reason



i guess it could be ok... but a spider that lacks the power to move itself to a water dish will also lack the power to move itself out of a puddle that is filling its book lungs


i would probably stick with a traditional icu or go to dropping water on the mouth and would probably skip a flooded container unless i got really lazy one time
You do what ever you feel comfortable doing. This has been working great on my end. The methods you mentioned are exactly what I have done in the past. I'm wanting to try this out and see how things go. Paul Becker is very knowledgeable when it comes to T's among other animals. I decided to try this out and share with others.

To prevent the T from drowning all you have to do is only set their mouth into the water and leave their butt on the dry side. I believe after a little while of drinking like this they would have enough hydration to be able to move out of the water if they need to. Mine has.
 

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i also use this method, i didnt know anyone else does this. it really depends on how weak the T is. but ive found the best results from even the weakest ts as long as its not too deep and they have a dry spot. the weaker Ts it works better with this method because the dont hafta climb over anything to get the water. ive been able to bring back Ts to full heath when thier on the brink of dieing that icu couldnt do.
 

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i also use this method, i didnt know anyone else does this. it really depends on how weak the T is. but ive found the best results from even the weakest ts as long as its not too deep and they have a dry spot. the weaker Ts it works better with this method because the dont hafta climb over anything to get the water. ive been able to bring back Ts to full heath when thier on the brink of dieing that icu couldnt do.
This was why I wanted to try this out. It seems like a more direct way of delivering water to the T in need. I was also curious as to how many others have used this method and for the ones that haven't I thought it would be interesting to share.
 

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what i am saying is that in this arrangement all the spider has to do is give one little convulsive lurch and boop, they are breathing water

in a more traditional icu the spider can't fit it's whole ceph and body into the water container (unless you are stupid in building it). if you are worried about water access then you can just use a very shallow lid as the water dish and make a few layers of PT for the spider to be on... rest face in water and you are done. the spider would have to be healthy enough to do some acrobatics to drown itself... not just take a half rotating step
 

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I've heard of this method as well. I like it,though being the worry wort that I am, I may use Cacoseraph's idea of very shallow dish and PT boost. I think both methods are valid;the choice would depend on your worry threshold. Mine:not too high:eek:
 

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Right now my A Avic is in ICU using this method. I find that it works the best. 5 minutes ago I was using the traditional method of ICU(Water dish) and found out that my Avic was just curling up again. But now, he/she is fine! I highly recommend this method!:clap:
 

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I've had T's that for some reason won't eat or drink anything. They just end up withering away and dying. I've always wondered if it would be possible to inject water into their abdomen with a hypodermic needle.
 

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i've had t's broken in shipping that i brought back from the edge by dropping water in their mouths

i think i would try injecting water down their like, gi tract via their mouth opening before i would try injecting water through the cuticle and stuff. but, you can just superglue them shut and get away with a fair amount. TTKG talks about injecting ringer's solution, too







look, i'm not saying it is even really all that likely that a t will run into problems with this method. but i can almost guarantee that when say... 100 ppl have tried this at least one or three will have a spider crap out on them and find it with book lung openings submersed cuz it was able to scootch a bit forward. hey, i would even buy that person doing it put a tiny bit too much water in the container. i just see no need to mess with a method that works and just flat out can't drown a spider
 
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