Rattlers
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I was looking at ratle snakes today.. considering buying one , Tell me do i really want to mess with one of these? , I know its obviously going to try pritty dam hard to bite me and will be fast as bat from haideys but its the venom id like to know just before hand in terms of Danger?
obviosly i know its not going to be much fun to get biten but is it suvivable without hospital ( i hate thoughs places!)
obviosly i know its not going to be much fun to get biten but is it suvivable without hospital ( i hate thoughs places!)
If you dont have lots of experience in snakes you are better to wait with rattlers or other venomous snakes.You never know how you react to a bite, you might get serious complications even if you get serum.mimic58 said:
I would suggest that you stay away from them. For now atleast.
/Lelle
Sounds wise though sadly i dont know anyone insane enough to keep one.Crotalus said:
i cant see a corn snake preparing me for one of these so im opting to learn how to dodge bites from a faster but less toxic species Ie one that hurts bad , bad enough to make me avoid it , but not harmfull any sujestions?
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I have no interest in keeping rattlers (at least not any time soon), but I do love them. I've seen Crotalus oreganus oreganus while hiking in Eastern Oregon on a few occasions. Beautiful snakes.
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Mimic, the Western Hognose is a species with very mild, but some, venom. However, they aren't too agressive. You might try a more agressive Elaphe species, look into agressive rat snakes, but outside of that I don't really know any mean non-hot snakes...hope I helped. 
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Excellent pics,as usual,Lelle. Although I keep only constrictors,I love looking at venomous snakes. My favourite venomous snake is the Gaboon.I just wish there was a non-venomous that looked like them
Sir George
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Very nice as ususal Lelle. I love the durissus. When are you going to bless us with some shots of their enclosures
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How many years did you keep nonvens before you decided to go hot?Crotalus said:
Like for example, if I could learn from you how to handle, etc would that shave off a couple of years from the entire process?
One week w/ Lelle equals 2 years of practise?
I'm always looking for a shortcut...
Around 10-13 years before I started to keep hots seriously. I had a few vipers earlier but had to get rid of them.sheri said:
Yes I´d say so, it depends alot on your own will to learn. Dedication and a genuine interest is a must. They are not snakes you go out and get on impulse.sheri said:
LOL!sheri said:One week w/ Lelle equals 2 years of practise?
I'm always looking for a shortcut...
One week here and you become a herringfanatic..
/Lelle
Thanks.Lasiodora said:Very nice as ususal Lelle. I love the durissus. When are you going to bless us with some shots of their enclosures
Mike
I only have a overall picture somewhere here on the forum. I post some new ones once I get a cam..
/Lelle
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There are plenty of mean non-venomous snakes to practice with: garden tree boas, red-tailed ratsnakes, radiated ratsnakes, reticulated pythons, anacondas, water snakes, a lot of the Asian ratsnakes, as a matter of fact, can be rather testy.
In my experience, tree boas are grouchy little things that are often ready to lunge at you. I used plexiglass shields with mine after getting several slashing bites to the arm while trying to spot clean or change water.
In my experience, tree boas are grouchy little things that are often ready to lunge at you. I used plexiglass shields with mine after getting several slashing bites to the arm while trying to spot clean or change water.
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Carpet pythons are pissy little suckers, at least mine are. Their jaws are also strong enough to warrant a good attempt at dodging/not getting bitten
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Wow! Excellent pics Lelle. I sure like that cerb. How old is it? It looks like it still has its juvenile colors. Very nice!
Gilbert
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Thanks Gil.GQ. said:
Shes approx 4 years old (small for her age because of poor conditions at the former owner). Im not sure if shes getting any darker then that (its not really juv colors). My two males are alot darker then her. There are (as im sure you know) a differencies of colors on cerberus in the wild, from light brown to jet black depending on where you find them, in lower or higher altitude. But there are also sexual differencies in coloration (and according to a breeder there are morphological differences between sexes aswell) where males have a more striking coloration. We´ll see if she change during next molt or two.
She was mated last year but didnt produce any offspring. We´ll see how it goes this year.
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Deffinately get used to agressive snakes first. Maybe some tree boas. Mine never hesitate to lunge at me. After a while you learn to handle them and things get easier. You will know when you are ready to keep a hot snake. If you worry about it to much then you are deffinately not ready.
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misfitsfiend said:
I think this is very big misconception. The fact that you owned several amazon tree boas who are aggressive does not necessarily make you qualified to deal with hots. This can give you some experience but you cannot draw everything you need to know from this alone. You have to remember that venomous snakes do not always show signs of aggression when they strike (rattlesnakes sometimes don't even rattle). In those cases having worked with aggressive snakes will mean nothing. You have to be proficient with a snake hook and have calm nerves. Some snakes won't hook at all. I think an overall knowledge of keeping snakes and working closely with someone who keeps hots will better prepare you than anything else. How much time you will need to work with that person varies from individual to individual. You also have to be realistic and plan for a bite. Anyone who keeps hots can tell you that no matter how experienced you that there's always a chance of being bit, however small it may be.
Back to the topic.
Again beautiful pics.
Mike