Pterinochilus murinus

[NightCrawler27]

ok need a lil help here ..i tried find info on obt's habitats..but everything i read really dont say much on them ...just that they can be very aggresive..and things they like to eat..and with me workin 10 hr days i dont have alot of time to sit for hrs and search hard core..the reason i need the info is i have 10 obt s'lings arriving wed. or thurs.of this week and i wanna make sure i have everything set up just right ..if anyone could help us here we greatly would appriate it........thx

 

[Sheri]

Use the search button.

It's like, super easy!
Way easier than Google.
Easier even, then voting in Florida.
And way easier than figuring out who won.
I mean, you're searching a literal database about... ummm, what's this site about again? RIGHT! Tarantulas. Of which P. murinus is an incredibly common one.

 

[metzgerzoo]

Keep it simple. Dry substrate, provide a small hide for them, but also expect them to decide to be semi arboreal as well. With OBT's one never can say for sure if they will climb or burrow so give them the option to do both. Deep enough substrate to burrow and a little something to climb on.
10 huh? Good luck!

 

[NightCrawler27]

yeah 10 wanted to make sure i got a male and female so i just got 10..i not real good with computers ..my g/f is but the different animals i obtain are my responsabilty..so that search thing will search on this website for the info?dry substrate ..hide ...and climbing ..and burrowing ....pretty much like my g.rosea tank is set up ...im good to go then thx alot

 

[Sheri]

http://www.southcoastinverts.com/caresheets/mombassastarburst.htm


http://arachnophiliac.co.uk/burrow/caresheets/pterinochilus_murinus.htm


And LOOK! An Arachnopets one!

http://www.arachnopets.com/tarantulas/tcaresheets/pspusumbarac.htm


Those are the first three results from google.

 

[NightCrawler27]

ok i have read some care sheets on them ...now i have a few questions for any keepers that own them ..1 care sheet said they can be aggresive ..another said they are aggresive...or does it just depend on the t?
when my s'lings arrive and i pick them up ...can t's get use to human touch where they feel safe and dont bite and arent aggresive?i bet it just depends on the t itself huh? how their temperment is on the specific t im holding...am i correct or am i mistakin?...

 

[metzgerzoo]

ok i have read some care sheets on them ...now i have a few questions for any keepers that own them ..1 care sheet said they can be aggresive ..another said they are aggresive...or does it just depend on the t?
when my s'lings arrive and i pick them up ...can t's get use to human touch where they feel safe and dont bite and arent aggresive?i bet it just depends on the t itself huh? how their temperment is on the specific t im holding...am i correct or am i mistakin?...

I would say, you're mistaken.
OTB's are VERY fast (they're called speed demons for a reason), even as slings and yes, they are known to be aggressive (they are called OBT....orange bitey thing....for a reason). Some are more aggressive than others, it depends on the particular T but as a general rule, they are NOT a rosie, so don't pick them up. Plus, P. murnius pack a hell of a bite, even a bite froma sling can hurt like a son of a gun so, again, don't handle them. IMHO, I do not think that any tarantula can be *hand tamed*. While some swear by it and say theirs are....I don't think so. Tarantulas are not dogs, cats or even birds, they have a very primitave brain and are an instinctual animal...but of course I've read stories from people who swear their rose hairs "protect" them from strangers and will even "attack" anyone who tries to harm their "human" and they take them everywhere with them in their shirt pocket....yeah, right! :liar: (someone get the straight jackets)
Any way, P. murnius is not a play toy. If you really want to pick up your slings, that's your call, but good luck finding them ever again when they haul booty out of your hand and run away so fast you don't even know which dirrection they went...or....it jumps, falls and kills its self....or...you get tagged.
BTW, you said you wanted to insure a male and female....are you intending on breeding? If so, are the slings you're getting from the same egg sac? If so, the old saying "Insest is best" doesn't hold true here....don't inter breed.

 

[David_F]

BTW, you said you wanted to insure a male and female....are you intending on breeding? If so, are the slings you're getting from the same egg sac? If so, the old saying "Insest is best" doesn't hold true here....don't inter breed.

Is there any specific reason why you shouldn't inbreed tarantulas? To my knowledge it hasn't been shown to cause any problems (so far). This is another "Do a search before you jump into it" thing. It's been discussed many times and, if I remember correctly, many of the Ts we have in the hobby now are a result of inbreeding.

Oh yeah, don't handle your OBTs. That could make for a bad day.

 

[Sheri]

One should note though that your males will likely mature before your females are old enough to breed.
Unless this species is an exception.

 

[phil]

One should note though that your males will likely mature before your females are old enough to breed.
Unless this species is an exception.

Hi
I would agree with the above statment with slow growing sp such as Brachypelma, Aphonopelma etc, but I would have to disagree with the above statment with regard to Pterinochilus and Ceratogyrus.
To use P.murinus as an example, Which i have bred just a few times. I have far greater success with smaller specimens (under 3") than with larger ones (over 3") A couple of years ago i mated 5 females using 2 males, of which 4 eggsacs were produced withing a two week time span, the eggsacs hatched within the same time scale, all spiderlings were fed and kept the same and all grew at a simular rate. At the beginning of this year the males from that breeding matured, the males from one eggsac (A) (approx 2" legspan) were mated with the females from the other eggsac (B) with females measuring legspan no more than the males, from this breeding 4 females were mated, of which 3 produced fertile eggsacs.
Obviously by breeding smaller specimens the egg count is reduced in comparison to larger specimens, under 3" females typcally produce 70 to 100 eggs, where as larger specimes will produce 80 to 180 eggs, although quantities will vary depending on temp and feeding habits.
drifting way off topic now, sorry, i had to use my breeding data to back up my original statment

 

[NightCrawler27]

as for beeding i bought 10 and was sent 12....5 from 1 eggsac and 7 from another..so there wont be inbrednation...(i wouldnt want to mate with my sister ..so i wont have them doin it either)...as for hand tame..im not real sure about t's...but i know i can touch my emp and he doesnt sting or claw me but if someone else tries to he trys to strike them..but know my problem persists..the pic i was sent was of 1 inch obt's...they are way smaller !!!so now my set up should change ..i read that if you put a s'ling in to big of a enviroment it can cause the lil guy stress and thats bad for them ..(possible the unknown reason for other keepers s'lings to die for no reason )now my question is can they be put in the same lil critter keeper 1 for each different offspring (2 different sac s'lings= 2 different critter cages)or should i put them in seperate lil plastic containers?i would have had this all ready but i thought they were way bigger then this...pics can be decieving..lol

 

[Washout]

You should have them in small vials, and keep them there till they get over 1". Mine are in small 3 or 5 dram vials. The ones that are now over 1" have been moved into yhogurt cups. You could probably put a 1/2" sling in a yhogurt cup, as long as it was filled 3/4ths of the way with substrate. I'll be keeping mine in yhogurt cups until they are over 2".

A 1/2" sling can probably escape from any kritter keeper really easily.

 

[NightCrawler27]

yes they came in vials ..with some kinda substrate on the bottom and a piece of tissue in it ..should i leave the tissue in it?..if they are to stay there till they hit 1 inch..it will be really cramped in there for them..thx for the info ..i had tanks set up for them ..lolguess that just leaves room for others later on

 

[reverendsterlin]

I kept mine in large seasoning containers and peanutbutter jars. As for aggression (at least with mine) there was little, mostly it was run and hide, then after moulting up to around the 2" mark suddenly everything changed and the typical aggression came out. I keep mine on dry peat and can usually spot them somewhere in the mass of webbing.
Rev

 

[Washout]

yes they came in vials ..with some kinda substrate on the bottom and a piece of tissue in it ..should i leave the tissue in it?..if they are to stay there till they hit 1 inch..it will be really cramped in there for them..thx for the info ..i had tanks set up for them ..lolguess that just leaves room for others later on

No the tissue is just for shipping so you can pull that out. But yeah they may get a bit cramped but it's no big deal really, long as they have enough room to moult they will be fine. I woulden't put them in anything bigger than a yhogurt cup for sure.

 

[NightCrawler27]

Ok I Had To Move Them They Didnt Have Enough Room To Molt ...only 1 Got Loose And Boy Can That Lil Guy Run ..but I Finally Got Him ...we Named It Speedy..lol..but How Much Should They Be Feed ?alot A Lil?
Has Anyone Heard Of A Bug Called By This Name ? Rollie Pollies?..or Pill Bugs? I Have Lots Of Them I Found And They Look Like The Right Size For The Lil Slings To Eat ..i Cant Seem To Find Pinheads At The Pet Stores And The Crickets Im Breeding Havent Had Any Yet If They Did I Cant See Them..i Looked At Other Outside Spider Webs And The Pollie Bugs Seem To Be Their Main Victims Caught In There Web..would It Hurt To Feed My 12 Lil Monsters These?

 

[Pokie1]

As for handling them, it is not recommended. However, if you don't mind the risk of getting tagged, and have a containment area (like a fully enclosed shower (with drain plugged, of course) I'd say try it and see what happens. I was thinking of doing the same thing-periodically handle them and see what happens. Plus I am kinda curious to see what all the fuss is about.

Let us know.

BTW, it is not recommended to feed wild caught insects due to the possibility of poisoning your slings. If it were me, I would stick to captive raised pinheads.

Pokie1

 

[Washout]

I feed my slings every 3 days and give them 2-3 crickets each. But don't be afraid to feed them crickets nearly as big as they are, they are really agressive. Mine are currently 1.5" though.

 

[NightCrawler27]

thx for the iformatoin i just drove 30 miles total of 60 there andback bought over 100 pinheads from a pet store in another town got home and almost all of them were dead...thank god i bought like 200 crickets last week for breeding so i have all sorts of sizes...i put 2 pinheads in the containers and they jumped them lil crickets instantly...it was very interesting to watch and as lil as there obt's are they have a really unique web tey all have spun a different style

 

[Gail]

You can feed them pieces of larger crickets as well if you haven't got anything small enough. As for the pill bugs (rolly pollies) most T's won't touch them - I actually have them living in some of my T enclosures which need to be kept moist on purpose because they clean up debris and with them in there, I notice far fewer scavanger mites and scuttle flies. The T's ignore them.

As others have said, I don't recommend trying to handle OBT's - they are reputed to pack one heck of a painful bite and they are more than willing to let you have it. Even a sling may bite - especially if you close your hand over it. I had a 1 inch sling escape during feeding a few days ago. So fast I couldn't grab it before it disappeared under the shelving. I saw it yesterday hiding in one of the corners of the shelf and when I went to prod it out with a small camel hair brush it attacked and bit the brush. Sure glad I didn't use my finger

Gail