Poecilotheria subfusca Care Help

[sloth]

Hi everyone! So my local reptile shop has a P. subfusca for sale and I have a few questions about them.

1. How potent is their venom? I know other Poecilotheria are pretty potent and some even send you to the hospital. Am I going to experience only pain, or other symptoms as well?

2. How do I care for them? Moist? Dry? Would an 8x8x12 work for an adult?

3. How big do they get?

4. I know there’s a lowland and highland form. He’s selling P subfusca and P bara. I was reading that P bara is most likely just subfusca lowland. He sent me a picture of the sling he has and I was wondering if you could tell me whether it’s the highland or lowland form. Here’s the pic

Any advice about them will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

[The Seraph]

. How potent is their venom? I know other Poecilotheria are pretty potent and some even send you to the hospital. Am I going to experience only pain, or other symptoms as well?

Their venom is medically significant. It is very painful and can cause muscle cramps. If you are young, old or have medical issues than the venom can be very significant.

 

[Liquifin]

I can't help much since I never kept this species of pokie before. But here are my 2 cents.

Would an 8x8x12 work for an adult?

I wouldn't use it for a P. subfusca lowland, they grow to be around 6". So it's too small for me IMO. The highland is smaller than the lowland from what I hear....

 

[Venom1080]

Poecilotheria all have bad venom. It won't kill you. But you'll want pain killers. Also, some people have reported effects for many months.


They are very tolerant of all conditions. Many species experience monsoon seasons and droughts. Keep them moist when young and you can keep them drier as they grow. But they don't care.

Poecilotheria subfusca lowland is a large species. Growing 7.5-8" approximately. The Highland form is smaller. The stuff in the trade is VERY likely mixed and thus their size should be around 6.5-7". So, that cage is a little small.

Bara is wrong and not to be used. It is subfusca. Early DNA work suggests that the two forms are indeed separate species. And will be separated in the future. The hobby mixed and mashed the species into the forms they are today.


You can't tell the form that young. Age plays a massive difference.

Lowland generally has lighter colors. Highland darker. Lowland is generally bigger. Highland smaller.

 

[horneteer]

I recently moved my AF ~7" lowland subfusca from a 12×12×18" enclosure to an 8x8x12". Both enclosures contain what I consider to be more than enough hiding places and ground cover. I moved her because she hardly ever used even half the space of the larger enclosure at night. She's doing great and doesn't look cramped at all. She is very reclusive but seems to feel more secure in the smaller enclosure and stays out more. I don't do communal setups and have concluded that my 12x12x18" enclosures are only really useful for very large Ts. They're perfect for my AF P. ornata, rufilata and regalis for example. In my experience lowland subfuscas are very laid back. I've never seen any defensive behaviour from mine.

 

[mack1855]

Am I going to experience only pain, or other symptoms as well?

Why do you assume your going to get tagged???.With proper husbandry,and respect,and
being prepared during feeding,maintance and rehouseing,it should not be an issue.

Ya,crap happens,but you get ready for the crap.IMO,being a skillful T keeper means
never having to say"OUCH",SON OF A …..!!!.

Being a subfusca,and being as its in your state,i would jump on it.

 

[sloth]

Why do you assume your going to get tagged???.With proper husbandry,and respect,and
being prepared during feeding,maintance and rehouseing,it should not be an issue.

Ya,crap happens,but you get ready for the crap.IMO,being a skillful T keeper means
never having to say"OUCH",SON OF A …..!!!.

Being a subfusca,and being as its in your state,i would jump on it.

What’s a normal price for a subfusca highland? He’s selling it for $70

 

[mack1855]

Lookin at your pic,it looks like 1/2 to 3/4 inch DLS??.Obviously no sex determination,correct?.
For a subfusca,70 $US, I would do it.But that's just me,its whats its worth for you.