Phormictopus sp. Hispaniola / Caribbean Emerald vs Phormictopus sp. South Hispaniola / Green femur

antinous

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Are these two species the same? They look similar as far as I could tell. If it’s just another name for the same tarantula that’s just a pain as the Phormictopus genus is already muddy as is...
 

MissouriArachnophile

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I was looking at getting some labeled Caribbean emerald. I haven't read through the whole pdf.
https://arachnoiden.com/product/phormictopus-sp-south-hispaniola-2-12-3-♀/

Quote from site
"The prototypical Cuban species is Phormictopus auratus. Outside of Cuba the prototypical species is Phormictopus cancerides (Hispaniola). In the past several years, the island of Hispaniola (Haiti and the Dominican Republic) has yielded a number of undescribed species, including the unusually dark Phormictopus sp. “south Hispaniola” as well as others with color-based names (sp. “blue,” sp. “green,” sp. “full green,” and sp. “purple”). Experts will tell us whether these are unique species or, as some argue, color variants of Phormictopus cancerides. Yet even color variants we collector-breeders will want to keep separate, not wishing to undo nature’s handiwork. We could be witnessing local color adaptations, even early divergence within a species."

About half way down the page is a link to some of the research on them
 

antinous

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I was looking at getting some labeled Caribbean emerald. I haven't read through the whole pdf.
https://arachnoiden.com/product/phormictopus-sp-south-hispaniola-2-12-3-♀/

Quote from site
"The prototypical Cuban species is Phormictopus auratus. Outside of Cuba the prototypical species is Phormictopus cancerides (Hispaniola). In the past several years, the island of Hispaniola (Haiti and the Dominican Republic) has yielded a number of undescribed species, including the unusually dark Phormictopus sp. “south Hispaniola” as well as others with color-based names (sp. “blue,” sp. “green,” sp. “full green,” and sp. “purple”). Experts will tell us whether these are unique species or, as some argue, color variants of Phormictopus cancerides. Yet even color variants we collector-breeders will want to keep separate, not wishing to undo nature’s handiwork. We could be witnessing local color adaptations, even early divergence within a species."
I did some more digging and I saw that Pinchers and Pokies is selling one called Caribbean Emerald bred by someone who only bred Green femur, so I guess they’re the same
 

KezyGLA

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never heard of it. Sounds like someone is just stirring the pot.
 

MissouriArachnophile

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Guess I'll ha e to stick the green femur til the ones in the US get bred, don't seem like there are many out there, I'll keep digging through vague classifieds.
 

MissouriArachnophile

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I've been looking for some too, I regret selling my pair back in the day :(:(:(
Dang to bad you made that decision, those greens are awesome, I'll probably get one blue and a green femur tomorrow.
Though it would be nice if the Caribbean emerald was a mislabeled full green, but I doubt it.
 
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