Phoneutria

[metallica]

oooh look, got a little present from Sweden!

THANX Lelle!

Eddy

 

[Crotalus]

oooh look, got a little present from Sweden!

THANX Lelle!

Eddy

You are welcome!
And great pix of the small buggers!

/Lelle

 

[Steven]

-----> Cute :}

 

[aftershock]

So sweet...

Lelle>>>Det blev en lyckad parning?

 

[Crotalus]

So sweet...

Lelle>>>Det blev en lyckad parning?

Ja, det blev ett gäng ungar

/Lelle

 

[Griot]

Wow..nice Spider...what kind of Phoneutria is that?

I have some Phoneutria Spiderlings from Peru..must be P.fera or P.reidyi i think...(see Platnick)

 

[Crotalus]

Wow..nice Spider...what kind of Phoneutria is that?

I have some Phoneutria Spiderlings from Peru..must be P.fera or P.reidyi i think...(see Platnick)

Its P. nigriventer. You might have boliviensis which is more likely then reidyi or fera (those two are amazon region species and most likely harder to collect)
Phoneutria slings are very hard to raise - let me know if you are successful in raising them.

/Lelle

 

[GL3NE]

Aren't Phoneutria rather toxic? I would LOVE to have a juvenile or adult, but I couldn't raise a tiny little baby.

-- Glen

 

[Michael Jacobi]

Lelle,

Anytime you want to send one of those gifts across the pond...

Michael

 

[Griot]

Just a bad pic from my phoneutria juveniles from peru...

 

[Stormcrow]

I would be very proud to acquire one of these. Beautiful pics, actually to maximize longevity and health, I would probably keep them in disposable tupperware containers with a some damp coconut shavings. I hear they are rather fast and can scale clean glass. Oops, maybe a bad idea wouldn't want that loose in the house unless I fed them and maintained them in a tupperware sitting within a empty aquarium specifically designated for this purpose. Will they take crushed cricket parts?

 

[Crotalus]

I would be very proud to acquire one of these. Beautiful pics, actually to maximize longevity and health, I would probably keep them in disposable tupperware containers with a some damp coconut shavings. I hear they are rather fast and can scale clean glass. Oops, maybe a bad idea wouldn't want that loose in the house unless I fed them and maintained them in a tupperware sitting within a empty aquarium specifically designated for this purpose. Will they take crushed cricket parts?

I had them all over my house and as long as they are small they cant survive for long in a apartment, and they cannot pierce skin. Its the juveniles and adults you gotta be careful with.
Slings of Phoneutria have a extreme high mortality (in terrarium) and so far I dont know why. Got another eggsack of them, I hope I can figure out why. The slings normally eats well and suddenly they all die in a day or two.

/Lelle

 

[Stormcrow]

I don't want to be the bearer of bad advise or cause the loss of a complete eggsac. But I was wondering, if the 'lings are cannibalistic? Maybe let mother nature sort out the fittest spiders and help encourage their growth to a more managable instar, improving their chances of survival. Just a thought meant to be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[Lopez]

I had them all over my house and as long as they are small they cant survive for long in a apartment, and they cannot pierce skin. Its the juveniles and adults you gotta be careful with.
Slings of Phoneutria have a extreme high mortality (in terrarium) and so far I dont know why. Got another eggsack of them, I hope I can figure out why. The slings normally eats well and suddenly they all die in a day or two.

/Lelle

I've had this with Chilocosmia "cebuensis" given to me by Ray G. Very frustrating!

 

[Crotalus]

I don't want to be the bearer of bad advise or cause the loss of a complete eggsac. But I was wondering, if the 'lings are cannibalistic? Maybe let mother nature sort out the fittest spiders and help encourage their growth to a more managable instar, improving their chances of survival. Just a thought meant to be taken with a grain of salt.

Thing is - you dont get them to grow to a more manageble size in the first place.

They are gathered in clutches and I havent seen any cannibalistic tendencies, but that change as they grow. I kept the slings in 4 or 5 larger cages in clutches, each a bit more moist then the other - nothing helps.

This isnt theraphosids or other commmonly kept spiders, and advice that suits theraphosids doesnt work on these. Well, got a sack to experiment with.

I had this problem with a huntsman spider slings from Papua New Guinea. All just decided to die collectivly...

/Lelle

 

[Stormcrow]

Well, I wish you the best of luck Lelle, hope you find the solution. Something the whole arachnid pet trade will benefit from. Phoneutria comes into the States very, very sparingly but someday I am hoping becomes more common.

 

[Crotalus]

Well, I wish you the best of luck Lelle, hope you find the solution. Something the whole arachnid pet trade will benefit from. Phoneutria comes into the States very, very sparingly but someday I am hoping becomes more common.

Thanks. I hope so too. However, I dont really hope they become common in the hobby due to their potent venom and behaviour. I sell to people I know can deal with them or can give me references, pretty much the same policy I apply when selling venomous snakes.

/Lelle