[Inquiry] PetArmor Plus

[AudreyElizabeth]

I was rather excited when I heard there was a generic version of Frontline out. I used to not use it, but I moved to a smaller house and now store my invertebrates in the cabinets. I figure there is less of a chance for contamination; seeing as how they are off the floor/shelves and safe from stray hairs.

So, I research the product, and find reviews like this. http://reviews.walmart.com/1336/15992151/petarmor-plus-flea-tick-protection-for-dogs-up-to-22-pounds-3-month-supply-reviews/reviews.htm

And then I found reviews where the medication is making cats extremely ill.

SO, my hopes are dashed for cutting my flea med price in half.

Anyone here used it? Personal experiences? Based on the reviews I will not be using this product, but it might help to get the word out one way or another.

http://www.amazon.com/PetArmor-Plus-Cats-Dose-Box/dp/B0050LVXQO

There are the reviews for the cat version.

 

[Mojo Jojo]

All three of my dogs and both of my cats just got their second month's dose of this stuff yesterday. They've not shown any problem with it thus far.

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Even though most of the Amazon reviews of this product are negative, there still aren't very many reviews at all. Further more, they are sold out as of now. Also, who knows who the people are that have registered and provided those reviews. Perhaps they are honest. But perhaps they have a financial interest influencing their review.

---------- Post added 08-11-2011 at 02:43 AM ----------

I've also met many a vet that that look at their medicine cabinet as a revenue generating machine and would also have an interest in putting down something that they don't sell in hopes that you will chose something that they do sell and which was marked up quite substantially. I've had a vet give me anti 1-800-Pet-Meds propaganda.

 

[Alex90]

There are now a couple of approved generic equivalents of Frontline available. FIPROGUARD (available at pet specialty stores) and PRONYL OTC (available at grocery stores, drug stores and mass retailers) just hit store shelves this season. They’re both made by Sergeant’s, and we've been developing products for pet health for more than 140 years. Unlike some of the other generic equivalents just released, both FIPROGUARD and PRONYL OTC are manufactured in the U.S., right in our facility in Memphis, Tennessee. So you can be sure that they’re made with strict quality control oversight. This is another important consideration when you’re choosing any product for your pet!

Alex
Sergeant's Pet Care Products

 

[Formerphobe]

And then I found reviews where the medication is making cats extremely ill.

There will be both positive and negative reviews on just about anything. In most cases it cannot be proven what exactly was applied and how it was applied/given. We had a client recently apply a DOG ONLY product to her cat. It stated on the product in multiple places: DO NOT APPLY TO CATS. So she figured a couple of drops wouldn't hurt... The cat lived, but will never be 'right'. I've also had clients give topical products orally... Or apply an entire 6 months worth of product at once thinking it would last six months... Often the, um, stupidity factor has to be calculated into the equation.

I've also met many a vet that that look at their medicine cabinet as a revenue generating machine and would also have an interest in putting down something that they don't sell in hopes that you will chose something that they do sell and which was marked up quite substantially. I've had a vet give me anti 1-800-Pet-Meds propaganda.

For a number of years, manufacturers were not standing behind products with their name that were purchased from certain online pharmacies. The products were bootleg or pseudo-product. Those particular lawsuits may still be ongoing...

Most veterinarians apply a reasonable markup according to what they are charged by the manufacturer/distributor. Some people expect us to sell product to them for less than what we paid for it... They also want state of the art care for their pet for 1950s prices. What is the old saying, you get what you pay for?

My practice did 'price-matching' for several years. Frequently I would tell people, "Sure, I'll increase our price to match what you want to pay online..." We don't waste our time price matching any more.

Many online pharmacies meet the criteria of the National Association of Boards of Pharmacy. Many others don't. Sort of like the difference between buying your prescription from some dude on the street corner, or from a licensed pharmacist. One online pharmacy in particular now has a "new and improved name". The 'new' company meets NABP criteria, the 'old' company does not...

Just as in human medicine, some generics are identical to the brand name, others aren't.

 

[ElfDa]

And then I found reviews where the medication is making cats extremely ill.

My folks used to use Frontline on our cats, when I was growing up;
my mother stopped using it so much because it would make one of our cats pretty poorly for several days, after.
He'd be lethargic, feverish, and sometimes even weepy-eyed, and more than one cat has experienced hair loss at the dosing site.


Speaking of needing flea-related guidance:

I'm also looking for good flea dosing solutions.
We dosed our boys with Frontline Plus about 3 weeks ago...
the fleas died back for a few days and then we had a sudden population BOOM and now my cats are crawling with fleas! T-T
We sprayed the carpets before we had a T or any feeder animals, but it's starting to look like we'll need to treat the entire apartment, again, as well as pairing oral medications with topical treatments for the cats...

Does anyone have tips for limiting cross-contamination? Or preferred flea treatments? :love:

I'm really worried about Chewbaca (our curly haired tarantula), and the feeder roaches (the adults just started shedding and dropping egg cases!).
Would it be safe to bring our inverts back in, a few days post-bombing? ::
we're getting chewed on almost as much as the cats, at this point... :cry:

 

[0siris]

I purchased frontline plus for dogs to use on my cat and it worked fine. My cat has been flea free since I last used it about a year ago.

here are the chemical compositions of the 2

Frontline Plus for Dogs (fipronil 9.8% and S-methoprene 8.8%)
Frontline Plus for Cats (fipronil 9.8% and S-methoprene 11.8%)

Fipronil is the active ingredient that kills the fleas, the S-methoprene is a growth regulator that's required in a bit of a higher concentration on cats to prevent the fleas more effectively.

Unless you have a small kitten, dosing is the same for all cats, .5ml

You can buy the cat version (3pack): That's 3 separate .5ml applications for about $30-40 on ebay

or

You can buy the 89-132lb dog version (3pack): That's 3 separate 4ml applications (24 times more than the cat version) for about $30-40 on ebay

All you have to do is get a 3-5ml syringe and draw up the correct dose for you furball and you are set!

Disclaimer: As good as this deal looks you do have to be careful because there are many products sold on ebay that are counterfeited. Google "how to spot fake frontline" and do some homework before you buy.