P. miranda Male Right?

[rustym3talh3ad]

so ive had this ambiguous Pokie for some time now, and i FINALLY think ive got a good enough molt to figure out its sex. take a look at this pic and tell me what ya'll think.

 

[DansDragons]

100% female, spermathecae is clearly visable.

 

[rustym3talh3ad]

but its by no means a flap...ive tried playing with it lol....i thought for sure this was a male...

 

[rustym3talh3ad]

plus at this size wouldnt i see the two little knobs at the top of the spermathicae? its over 4.5" right now.

 

[xhexdx]

I think I understand what you're saying, and by your description, yes, male.

Let me try and dig up a ventral shot of a male pokie to try to illustrate what you're describing...

Alright, here's a male incei:

Male rufilata:

So what you're seeing on your molt is that same spot, but reflected from the opposite side.

I think.

 

[rustym3talh3ad]

yeah, thanks id love to see some shots. i looked through the spermathicae sexing area on here and ive realized BARELY anyone has pokie molts on there....kinda discouraging. based on what ive known for sexing, this is a boy, becuz its not a flap but more or less just a mark....BUT ventrally its ambiguous. and even tho it did take 8 months between molts i guess im just gonna have to leave it up to the pro's cuz im stumped on this one.

 

[rustym3talh3ad]

I think I understand what you're saying, and by your description, yes, male.

Let me try and dig up a ventral shot of a male pokie to try to illustrate what you're describing...

Alright, here's a male incei:

Male rufilata:

So what you're seeing on your molt is that same spot, but reflected from the opposite side.

I think.

yeah i turned the molt over and looked, that spots not there lol...and then i put a needle to the "spermathicae" and it moved...i dont really know how we can be so damn hard up on this T, ive had several people look at it ventrally and ive gotten a big acrossed the board "i dont know" and now im looking at the same thing lmao.

 

[xhexdx]

Do you have a link to your ventral pics?

 

[DansDragons]

here's a shot of my female's molt when she was 4.5", spermathecae looks different from yours..but yours does look like spermathecae IMO..the notch from the inside of a molt would just be a small transparent spot.

the "notch" on this species is quite noticeable too, you would know as soon as you took a look at it ventrally, that it was male.

 

[robertcarst]

I don't know about miranda, but probably the same, look at some pictures of ornata and formosa spermathecae,http://homepage.ntlworld.com/the.tarantula.store/spermgal-Poecilotheria.htm, they are a one piece organ, so I will have to go with Dan'sDragons and say this is a female.

 

[rustym3talh3ad]

2 ventral shots....best i could do.....

2 carapace shots to give size, color, and possible dimorphism.....

 

[DansDragons]

looks just like my female..

 

[rustym3talh3ad]

well crap lmao....ive gotta say, this is probably the most problematic T i own. ive got everyone saying it something different, the damn things almost full grown...im gonna change its name from "Poe" to "Pat" hahaha.

 

[fatich]

it seems to me female

 

[xhexdx]

Well, I know someone with a small male, so either way you'll be fine.

 

[Protectyaaaneck]

100% female.

 

[rustym3talh3ad]

Well, I know someone with a small male, so either way you'll be fine.

haha, id love to say this is 100% female like the others are, but still not sure. i am starting to fall head over heals for pokies...i want to get a lot more, but i was kinda upset when this was looking male.

wonder if talkenlate04 (ryan) wouldnt mind chiming in on this thread...my first attempts to sex this thing about 8 months ago had him saying male...but there was no molt to show, it was all bad ventral and carapace shots.

 

[xhexdx]

Jason's damn good at pokie sexing too, so I'd feel pretty confident in his post.

 

[rustym3talh3ad]

Jason's damn good at pokie sexing too, so I'd feel pretty confident in his post.

Jason? whos that?

 

[Protectyaaaneck]

Thanks Joe, but even this one is a toughy. The only reason I said it was 100% female was because of it's size and folio pattern. Dorsally it looks very female but ventrally it looks male. I'm just going with my gut here.

Ohh and also because you can't deny the presence of spermethecae on the exuvium.