New Digs for the Dragons!

Austin S.

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They are getting much, much bigger, so here is their new tank!




Yummy



I believe both are males... what do you all think?
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These are from the same parents and they havent shown any signs of aggresssion towards eachother what so ever. That'd be great if they could actually stay together.
 

Cjacques

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Couple of things

Ditch the sand man. Impaction is a very real danger (and as far as I am concerned not worth the risk). It happens slowly over time as they ingest small particles of the substrate. Switch to co-co bedding use it dry, safest thing out there ( and most inexspensive, plus you are probably already using it for your Ts!). Also really need to get a UVB lamp on that cage as well and a night heat bulb wouldn't hurt either.
Other then that looks great. They are looking good so far. Just remember things like impaction, and metabolic bone disease dont happen over night. It takes years of improper care for them to show up.

They do both look like boys from the picture, though it is hard to tell. Realize that they most likely will need to be housed seperately when they hit sexual maturity.

Enjoy em beardies are a blast to keep. Lots of personality!

(As a side note too many superworms can also lead to digestive issues as they have a hard carapace and it is often difficult to digest. I have seen diets of straight superworms cause impaction as well. Try Giant mealworms instead they are much softer.)
 

xchondrox

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Looks like they will be happy for afew more months!:D

I always looked on the underside of the thighs for femeral pores, males have large pores and females have little tiny ones. You can look for hemipene bulges aswell, it looks from the pics that there are the start of some buldges there. Usually the buldges dont appear until they near maturity. I would confirm the sex with the presence of pores.

How big are they?

Once they mature if they are both males they will become territorial.
 

Austin S.

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They've been on the sand for a while now, and seem to be doing just fine. The light I am using is a 125 watt powersun. These emit everything you need if you havent read up. They are both over a foot long now. I know about superworms, they get them once-twice a month.
 

Tcollector

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Ditch the sand man. Impaction is a very real danger (and as far as I am concerned not worth the risk). It happens slowly over time as they ingest small particles of the substrate. Switch to co-co bedding use it dry, safest thing out there ( and most inexspensive, plus you are probably already using it for your Ts!). Also really need to get a UVB lamp on that cage as well and a night heat bulb wouldn't hurt either.
Other then that looks great. They are looking good so far. Just remember things like impaction, and metabolic bone disease dont happen over night. It takes years of improper care for them to show up.

They do both look like boys from the picture, though it is hard to tell. Realize that they most likely will need to be housed seperately when they hit sexual maturity.

Enjoy em beardies are a blast to keep. Lots of personality!

(As a side note too many superworms can also lead to digestive issues as they have a hard carapace and it is often difficult to digest. I have seen diets of straight superworms cause impaction as well. Try Giant mealworms instead they are much softer.)
Sand is fine for adult bearded dragons. I use it with mine and have not had a proplem with it. You just cant use sand when babies.
 

kingfarvito

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Sand is fine for adult bearded dragons. I use it with mine and have not had a proplem with it. You just cant use sand when babies.
yes you can you just cant use heat lamps that beardies need with screen tops and keep the animal hydrated
 

trefenwyd

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They've been on the sand for a while now, and seem to be doing just fine. The light I am using is a 125 watt powersun. These emit everything you need if you havent read up. They are both over a foot long now. I know about superworms, they get them once-twice a month.
Actually, you should have a day bulb and a night bulb. Turning everything off at night isn't good for beardies, unless your house stays the temperature they would have in their natural environment at all times. I doubt very much that it does.

And sand is bad for bearded dragons. Many people make the mistake of keeping them on sand, claiming that they "do just fine".

However, and please hear me out on this, I've been doing extensive work with bearded dragons (breeding and selling them by the hundreds), and I can tell you that impaction is a very real and very serious thing to be concerned about. Using sand for your beardies is like sentencing them to an early death. Regardless of how hydrated, what heat you have, and how you feed... they will lick the sand on occasion, get it in their mouth, miss their food and get sand instead, etc... and over time suffer impaction. Go to a bearded dragon forum if you want to be sure, or just talk to someone who deals with as many reptiles as I do.

Look up pictures of impaction.
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u304/mrjones16/Picture1.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2130/impactionku1.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4263/imag1401053xb.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7063/imag2401050oz.jpg

Please get rid of the sand. Calci-sand is just as dangerous. Hydrating the animal does not remove the particles of sand from the body.
 

trefenwyd

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The most important thing to know is that:

Impaction happens over time. It can take YEARS to catch up with your animal, but it will. I promise you. Please do your animals the favor and take them off of it. I really hope you do more thinking about this.
 
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