New BP babies!

[Jmugleston]

For all those grumpy about the ball python market, this is one of the reason people really like them: One clutch with six phenotypes - each one different from either of the parents.

IMG_9267 by gbserpentarium, on Flickr

IMG_9269 by gbserpentarium, on Flickr

 

[Spepper]

They're absolutely beautiful! Thanks for sharing!

 

[HungryGhost]

Stunning and great photo!

 

[pitbulllady]

So tell me what we have here, in terms of morphs and genders, and how they integrate with the Mojaves. I'm looking for a little lady friend for a future pairing on a Mojave het hypo juvie male I got recently.

pitbulllady

 

[Jmugleston]

So tell me what we have here, in terms of morphs and genders, and how they integrate with the Mojaves. I'm looking for a little lady friend for a future pairing on a Mojave het hypo juvie male I got recently.

pitbulllady

Clockwise from the top of the first photo:
Male Pastel
Female pinstripe
Female Super Jigsaw Blast (Super pastel mojave pinstripe)
Female (2) Killer Spinner Blasts (Super hypo pinstripe spider)
Male Bumblebee (Pastel spider)
Mostly buried in the center is a Male Jigsaw Blast (Pastel mojave pinstripe)

The mojave is a good one to have. Since it is a "CoDom" (more appropriately incomplete dominant but that is for a different discussion) roughly 50% of his offspring will inherit the mojave genotype from him. A better way of looking at it probabilistically is each offspring has a 50% chance of inheriting that trait from him so roughly 50% (given enough samples) will have it. Sounds like splitting hairs, but matters when you see skewed ratios hatching out.

So if your guy was paired with the super spinner blast female you can get the following combos:
Pastel
Pastel mojave
Pastel pinstripe
Pastel pinstripe mojave
Pastel spider
Pastel spider mojave
Pastel spider pinstripe
Pastel spider pinstripe mojave

Or if he was paired with the super jigsaw blast the following combos are possible:
Pastel
Pastel mojave
Pastel pinstripe
Pastel pinstripe mojave
Pastel Leucistic (BEL)
Pastel pinstripe leucistic (BEL)

Or when paired with the female pin you have a chance of the following:
Normal
Pinstripe
Mojave
Jigsaw (mojave pinstripe)

Since your boy is het. hypo, each of his babies are 50% poss. het. hypo as well. If he's 100% het, a good option would be any hypo combo or any combo that is also het. hypo. Hypo mojaves are incredible looking.

 

[Mindibun]

I love shiny, slimy-looking baby ball pythons. That's a nice little grab-bag variety clutch, too. Awesome!

 

[MrCrackerpants]

Just awesome! Got a picture of Mom and Dad?

 

[Jmugleston]

Just awesome! Got a picture of Mom and Dad?

I'll have to snap some new ones. I'll put them on the list to photograph this week.

 

[pitbulllady]

Can you start these out on f/t? That's my biggest hang-up with Ball Pythons, the fact that they are picky feeders. I have to purchase live small rats each week for my Mojave from a local BP breeder, and then suffer through the allergies and breathing troubles for the next 24 hours because I have not been able to get him to switch to f/t. In fact, he won't even eat live except at night, with all the lights off. He won't touch anything if someone is moving around and watching. The guy I get rats from only breeds enough, really, for his own snakes, so I can mostly only get them when he has some extras left over. He is the only source of live within a two-hour driving distance other than pet shops, which charge $11.00 per rat, regardless of size. I'm really interested in the female Super Jigsaw Blast if she will eat f/t.

pitbulllady

 

[Jmugleston]

Can you start these out on f/t? That's my biggest hang-up with Ball Pythons, the fact that they are picky feeders. I have to purchase live small rats each week for my Mojave from a local BP breeder, and then suffer through the allergies and breathing troubles for the next 24 hours because I have not been able to get him to switch to f/t. In fact, he won't even eat live except at night, with all the lights off. He won't touch anything if someone is moving around and watching. The guy I get rats from only breeds enough, really, for his own snakes, so I can mostly only get them when he has some extras left over. He is the only source of live within a two-hour driving distance other than pet shops, which charge $11.00 per rat, regardless of size. I'm really interested in the female Super Jigsaw Blast if she will eat f/t.

pitbulllady

I can do my best to get her eating f/t. It typically isn't too difficult as long as the snake isn't a difficult feeder to begin with (which your guys sounds to be). They should shed any day now and I'll offer her a f/t starting off. I have about half that take f/t right away. The others need a few live then they start eating anything placed in front of them.

As for your mojave, there may be some ways to get him switched over. He sounds like a difficult one, but it is still possible.

 

[pitbulllady]

I can do my best to get her eating f/t. It typically isn't too difficult as long as the snake isn't a difficult feeder to begin with (which your guys sounds to be). They should shed any day now and I'll offer her a f/t starting off. I have about half that take f/t right away. The others need a few live then they start eating anything placed in front of them.

As for your mojave, there may be some ways to get him switched over. He sounds like a difficult one, but it is still possible.

Any tips on switching him over would be appreciated. He is a late '13 baby, so he's not a hatchling and he's "set in his ways", as we say down South. Most, if not all, BP breeders feed live only, and raise their own feeders, due to the volume of snakes that they keep, and by the time they decide to let go of a particular snake, especially if it's a morph, it is already used to eating live-only, and Ball Pythons are one species I have never had luck with as far as changing their minds. I've tried placing the prey in a ziplock baggie and placing that in hot water, dipping the head in hot water, holding it under a light bulb to warm it up to mimic the natural body heat, wiggling it around with tongs, leaving it with him overnight and placing him and the f/t rat in a small container overnight, and he's not having any of that.

pitbulllady

 

[viper69]

Never had a problem switching or feeding my BPs, it's not hard at all, they will eat.

 

[freedumbdclxvi]

Never had a problem switching or feeding my BPs, it's not hard at all, they will eat.

Then you've not had a difficult bp then. I have one that will take only live African soft furs, and he will wait over half a year to get one over eating any other food item.

 

[viper69]

Then you've not had a difficult bp then. I have one that will take only live African soft furs, and he will wait over half a year to get one over eating any other food item.

Lucky you! Neither of mine have ever gone off feed or any of the characteristic behaviors we read about w/this species. I think it's because I don't keep mine fat, and keep temps constant, I keep them a bit on the hungry side too.

 

[PanzoN88]

How much does it cost to raise ball pythons like those pictured, i imagine the electric bill is intimidating

 

[freedumbdclxvi]

How much does it cost to raise ball pythons like those pictured, i imagine the electric bill is intimidating

Racks with Flexwatt heat don't hike the electric bill that much.

 

[viper69]

How much does it cost to raise ball pythons like those pictured, i imagine the electric bill is intimidating

Depends on where one lives. Some people only need UTH's, so that's pennies a month, if that. Others, live in colder climates, but even then it isn't too bad. They don't require any additional care, it's still a BP.

 

[Jmugleston]

How much does it cost to raise ball pythons like those pictured, i imagine the electric bill is intimidating

The snakes aren't too bad since they're kept in rack systems. The lizards on the other hand are more expensive if you figure each cage is 40-200 watts in bulbs multiplied over a few hundred cages.

 

[Jones0911]

ill be getting my BPs in a few months and ill be trying the flex watt tape for the first time. ...how does it work? prices? where can I get it from? And anything else relevant that might help..thanks