need ID, indiana.
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I'm not sure exactly what it is, but whatever it is it appears to be a mature male and will probably die in a few weeks/months.
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Since you live in the US I would suggest registering and submitting the photos to bugguide so some one on there can ID it for you. I don't think it's anything to worry about but I'm not going to tell you to release it or to do anything with it but keep it in a enclosed case with some air holes.
Because I don't want to be responsible for preventable accidents.
But I'm looking forward to seeing the results in the ID as well. Let me know what you've decided to do ( regarding bugguide and the ID of course ).
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Because I don't want to be responsible for preventable accidents.
But I'm looking forward to seeing the results in the ID as well. Let me know what you've decided to do ( regarding bugguide and the ID of course ).Black Widow88
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It's a thin male Araneus sp., orb weaver. I'd just look for a female hangin in her web in the evenings and put him in the web and watch them go at it (little spider babies being made). No, they aren't "dangerous," but of course they are venomous. I'm not sure there is a single 25 square foot spot of land around here without at least two of those hanging around this time of year.
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It doesn't look like any male Araneus sp. I've ever seen, the cephalothorax is too flat, not humped like I've seen in Araneus sp., nor near as hairy.
But regardless, the only spiders you really have to worry about in Indiana are Loxoceles reclusa (Brown Recluse) and Latrodectus mactans (Black Widow), neither of which are what you have there.
I think it's pretty safe to release.
But regardless, the only spiders you really have to worry about in Indiana are Loxoceles reclusa (Brown Recluse) and Latrodectus mactans (Black Widow), neither of which are what you have there.
I think it's pretty safe to release.
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hoosier recluse
here's a hoosier recluse. I find them in buildings more often than houses. this one is from west central ind, the supposed northern limit of their range.
here's a hoosier recluse. I find them in buildings more often than houses. this one is from west central ind, the supposed northern limit of their range.
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I've never seen those before! Awesome! How venomous are they compared to the brown recluse?Black Widow88
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By "hoosier," Lox just meant that it was from Indiana. It is a brown recluse.
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Never expected that! It looks different to me though.....Don't know why though. Definitely looks fatter then alot of the other ones in photos I've seen. Wonder why? Any way it's a nice looking spider. I just wouldn't tell you that it's a nice spider when it bites you!
How many species of recluse spiders are there? I've only heard of this one. So I was wondering if there were any others. And I love messing around with the fonts on here! It's so much fun! Don't cha think?
This is one of my favorites.
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How many species of recluse spiders are there? I've only heard of this one. So I was wondering if there were any others. And I love messing around with the fonts on here! It's so much fun! Don't cha think?
This is one of my favorites.
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I believe there is a Loxosceles relative native to the deserty areas of the Western US, but I don't think it's venom is near as toxic as reclusa. If I am wrong, someone please correct me. I just think I remember reading that in an Audubon Guide book.
Our old rental house was infested with L. reclusa, creepy-arse spiders. I can tolerate most, but the creepy brown leggy ones are just too much. Similar to my severe distaste for camel crickets, same principle.
They used to run over my lap while sitting on the couch, and after finding one in my pant leg from a pair of pants that slipped off a chair in the living room as I stuck my leg in, that was enough for me. We bought several of those "hobo spider traps" that are apparently laced with a pheromone, and coincidentally they did work equally well for L. reclusa. After a few years of the traps and smashing or spraying any we found, we didn't see any for a couple years more till we moved out.
Our old rental house was infested with L. reclusa, creepy-arse spiders. I can tolerate most, but the creepy brown leggy ones are just too much. Similar to my severe distaste for camel crickets, same principle.
They used to run over my lap while sitting on the couch, and after finding one in my pant leg from a pair of pants that slipped off a chair in the living room as I stuck my leg in, that was enough for me. We bought several of those "hobo spider traps" that are apparently laced with a pheromone, and coincidentally they did work equally well for L. reclusa. After a few years of the traps and smashing or spraying any we found, we didn't see any for a couple years more till we moved out.
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We have several. The species you're referring to is Loxoceles deserta. We also have L. laeta and maybe one or two others.
All essentially harmless, unless you stick your foot into the wrong spot.
There's a dorm building on the ISU campus which has a population estimated at 10,000+ and there's never been a bite.
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laeta are not harmless from what i have read. all idications are they are basically twice as long and twice as venomous... meaning 16x the destructive potentialWe have several. The species you're referring to is Loxoceles deserta. We also have L. laeta and maybe one or two others.
All essentially harmless, unless you stick your foot into the wrong spot.
There's a dorm building on the ISU campus which has a population estimated at 10,000+ and there's never been a bite.
i believe we (CA/SoCA) have something like 5-7 Lox sp. with most being native and laeta "Chilean recluse" and maybe one more being introduced. no established reclusa though
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Can they eat cars?laeta are not harmless from what i have read. all idications are they are basically twice as long and twice as venomous... meaning 16x the destructive potential
i believe we (CA/SoCA) have something like 5-7 Lox sp. with most being native and laeta "Chilean recluse" and maybe one more being introduced. no established reclusa though
Just to clarify...when I say 'harmless', I mean not likely to hurt you. Recluse bites are greatly over-exxagerated in terms of how commonly they're diagnosed.
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oh, i fully agree that reclusa bites are highly overly diagnosed and not likely to result in much of anything if they do actualy bite youCan they eat cars?
Just to clarify...when I say 'harmless', I mean not likely to hurt you. Recluse bites are greatly over-exxagerated in terms of how commonly they're diagnosed.
i just thought calling laeta harmless was funny =P
incidentily, i believe laeta means "nice" which is kind of funny hehehe
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I live in NYC too! Awesome! And I have no idea how to help you because I would never even think of keeping one of those.
Oh I agree on that. Before I knew this I actually believed what I was reading before I knew that they were ODing.
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