N. incei for beginners?

[Tarantulamoss]

Hello! I am a relatively new keeper! Before getting my first T, I did a full year of research to be able to keep them without neglecting them. I currently own a b. smithi and a t. albopilosum. The thread on n.incei says it is not for beginners, but the thread on beginner dwarf tarantulas say that n. incei and hapalopus colombia are the best beginner dwarfs. The n.incei is more available from my local T breeders. Are n.incei for beginners if i only plan on putting it in an enclosure and not interacting with them unless for feeding? If no, are there any dwarf species that are available and for beginners(unlike homoeomma species) that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Baby T]

Hi
They're not difficult to keep imo but they are very fast...
In terms of beginner dwarfs it was my first but I'd already been keeping for about 5 years.
Set up is not hard and they eat like pigs, but you should be prepared for potential teleporting.

I only have a couple of dwarfs but there are plenty of others here who will chime in.
@HeartBum maybe...

 

[Tarantulamoss]

Thanks! Every piece of info i can get from experienced keepers are valuable for me!

 

[NMTs]

N. incei are awesome and will web a ton, but they may also spend most of their time hidden in their web tunnels. As noted, they are very fast and with as much as they web their enclosures up, it's easy for them to get out of an open enclosure if you're feeding/watering/cleaning and happen to spook it. As long as you're comfortable with that stuff, there's no reason you shouldn't get one if you really like them.

There are a ton of cool dwarf species out there, though. One that I think is awesome and doesn't get talked about enough is Davus pentaloris. They have great colors and markings, do a moderate amount of webbing, and eat like pigs. Mine has been pretty shy as a tiny sling, but as it gets older and bigger it spends more time out in the open.

 

[Tarantulamoss]

N. incei are awesome and will web a ton, but they may also spend most of their time hidden in their web tunnels. As noted, they are very fast and with as much as they web their enclosures up, it's easy for them to get out of an open enclosure if you're feeding/watering/cleaning and happen to spook it. As long as you're comfortable with that stuff, there's no reason you shouldn't get one if you really like them.

There are a ton of cool dwarf species out there, though. One that I think is awesome and doesn't get talked about enough is Davus pentaloris. They have great colors and markings, do a moderate amount of webbing, and eat like pigs. Mine has been pretty shy as a tiny sling, but as it gets older and bigger it spends more time out in the open.

Thanks! sorry to change the conversation but what about them? Should i be starting a new thread or...

 

[NMTs]

Thanks! sorry to change the conversation but what about them? Should i be starting a new thread or...

I don't follow? I was just saying that if you've read up on the N. incei and are comfortable with their care requirements, then there's not a reason you shouldn't get one if you want to. However, if you're not completely sold on those and are wanting to consider other dwarf species, I would suggest you to consider D. pentaloris. If in your research you see another dwarf species that you're curious about, use the search feature on this site and see what you kind find about it.

 

[Tarantulamoss]

I don't follow? I was just saying that if you've read up on the N. incei and are comfortable with their care requirements, then there's not a reason you shouldn't get one if you want to. However, if you're not completely sold on those and are wanting to consider other dwarf species, I would suggest you to consider D. pentaloris. If in your research you see another dwarf species that you're curious about, use the search feature on this site and see what you kind find about it.

yup ! I will do researches on davus pentaloris! Thank you

 

[spideyspinneret78]

I think N. incei would be fine for a beginner as long as you research their care. They can be skittish and fast but eat well, grow fast, and are easy to take care of. You seem to have the right attitude so I say go for it!

 

[TechnoGeek]

They're not bad at all, I had a N incei in my first year in the hobby, although it wasn't my first. Great Ts, just don't expect them to be great for handling, cause they're pretty fast and skittish.

 

[viper69]

Hello! I am a relatively new keeper! Before getting my first T, I did a full year of research to be able to keep them without neglecting them. I currently own a b. smithi and a t. albopilosum. The thread on n.incei says it is not for beginners, but the thread on beginner dwarf tarantulas say that n. incei and hapalopus colombia are the best beginner dwarfs. The n.incei is more available from my local T breeders. Are n.incei for beginners if i only plan on putting it in an enclosure and not interacting with them unless for feeding? If no, are there any dwarf species that are available and for beginners(unlike homoeomma species) that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance!

Not a beginner species

 

[HeartBum]

Once they get settled in, they're absolutely fine for a beginner. It's the initial housing that you need to be SUPER careful with because they are so fast. However, once that's done, the likelihood is that you'll be able to prod them from behind from their tube-burrow, straight into a catch cup for future rehousings, which will be minimal due to their max size.

Great feeding response and you'll always see their little legs poking around when they're waiting for their next meal. Keep moist, but not wet, and provide a water dish (they'll web and bury it, but at least you're trying to help the ungrateful sods). I'm also finding that N. incei slings aren't appearing to be sold as small as other dwarfs, which is a good plus for a newbie. However, that may just be breeder-dependant.

Do any rehousings in a large open space, such as a bathtub with all the drains blocked off, and you'll be fine. Monster web machines and has done a better job than my GBB - they're just not great for a display T, unless your idea of display is a box full of webs with no sign of the T!

 

[Tarantulamoss]

Once they get settled in, they're absolutely fine for a beginner. It's the initial housing that you need to be SUPER careful with because they are so fast. However, once that's done, the likelihood is that you'll be able to prod them from behind from their tube-burrow, straight into a catch cup for future rehousings, which will be minimal due to their max size.

Great feeding response and you'll always see their little legs poking around when they're waiting for their next meal. Keep moist, but not wet, and provide a water dish (they'll web and bury it, but at least you're trying to help the ungrateful sods). I'm also finding that N. incei slings aren't appearing to be sold as small as other dwarfs, which is a good plus for a newbie. However, that may just be breeder-dependant.

Do any rehousings in a large open space, such as a bathtub with all the drains blocked off, and you'll be fine. Monster web machines and has done a better job than my GBB - they're just not great for a display T, unless your idea of display is a box full of webs with no sign of the T!

Yeah... Lack of visibility and speed make me think twice

 

[HeartBum]

In my experience, most dwarves stay hidden. Easy targets in the wild I guess, being so tiny, like slings. On one hand it's an advantage because loads can be kept and occupy very little space in a room, but they're not the best for display sadly. But when they are out, they're the cutest.

 

[Baby T]

Not a beginner species

Please explain?

 

[viper69]

Please explain?

what would you like to know??

 

[Baby T]

what would you like to know??

Your reasons for not being a beginner species of course?!

 

[viper69]

Your reasons for not being a beginner species of course?!

well it’s a subjective first of all.
Second, I think conservatively because I truly don’t know anyone’s skill set from a single post.

N incei is a fast species, and they live under the surface the large majority of the time.

Many new peeps want to see their T, and many can’t handle the speed. There you go.

 

[Baby T]

well it’s a subjective first of all.
Second, I think conservatively because I truly don’t know anyone’s skill set from a single post.

N incei is a fast species, and they live under the surface the large majority of the time.

Many new peeps want to see their T, and many can’t handle the speed. There you go.

Agreed on them being fast, I said the same in my post. Apart from that I think they're a pretty good choice as long as the OP likes heavy webbers...

Rehousing could be nerve racking but honestly, at that level of keeping rehousing ANY spider is nerve racking, they can all be fast if they want to.

Do you have any better dwarf suggestions? Curious for myself too as I only have a couple

 

[viper69]

Agreed on them being fast, I said the same in my post. Apart from that I think they're a pretty good choice as long as the OP likes heavy webbers...

Rehousing could be nerve racking but honestly, at that level of keeping rehousing ANY spider is nerve racking, they can all be fast if they want to.

Do you have any better dwarf suggestions? Curious for myself too as I only have a couple

They could all be fast- means no species is a beginner to me, that’s not a reasonable line of logic.

I see too many posts from peeps that don’t known what to do with heavy webbers- another reason I don’t suggest them. I raised 5 incei- great interesting species.

suggestions- there’s a few but they are hard to obtain and $$

nothing I haven’t posted before

 

[TechnoGeek]

Agreed on them being fast, I said the same in my post. Apart from that I think they're a pretty good choice as long as the OP likes heavy webbers...

Rehousing could be nerve racking but honestly, at that level of keeping rehousing ANY spider is nerve racking, they can all be fast if they want to.

Do you have any better dwarf suggestions? Curious for myself too as I only have a couple

Honestly most Ts can move too fast for a beginner when they want to especially as slings.

Obviously this one is faster than your average new world beginner T, and for a newcomer who wants to handle, even sparingly, I would not recommend it. But otherwise, there's nothing wrong with it really.