My spider molted but it looks hungry, should I feed it ?

[KristianDobias]

Hello fellow hobbyists, I know I write here a lot and sorry for that but I really need your help

So my spider that is probably from the Gnaphosidae family molted yesterday but it looks hungry, it's ophistosoma is pretty small, I know spiders can't be fed right after molting as their exoskeleton is pretty soft during that time but she looks hungry, I gave her a spritz of water because spoods are ussualy dehydratates after molting and she drinked

I also have another problem I gave her a small cricket when she was in pre-molt, the reason why I did this was that I had no clue she was in pre-molt, I have another older specimen of this species but she always built a little chamber from silk in which she molted (sack), this specimen just modified it's web and only other sign of pre-molt was that it refused to eat (I was kinda surprised that she molted when I came back home but also a bit happy as I now know why she refused food and that she is Okay), Iam not much worried about the cricket hurting the spider (alteast not directly) as she is in the web almost all the time, Iam more afraid that the cricket will die and start to mold (the enclousure is kept dry overall and dewed just once a week (2 times a week around the time of molting) but still) a week , I have almost no way of removing the cricket as I would have to damage the web pretty heavily (or even take everything out from the enclousure) as when the cricket is out it is ussualy under it which I really don't want to do as that would be very stressful for the spider, so I decided to feed the cricket a little to make sure it won't die (it would be hard to catch it with twezers as it's small and very fast even when feeding and it has plenty of objects to hide under)

I know it doesn't help that we don't even know what species it is but that's not due to lack of trying, I asked on Reddit for identification but we couldn't fully agree even on family let alone genus as most people suggested the family Gnaphosidae but the most upvoted comment said that it's probably spider from the family Clubionidae (which is unlikely due to the time of year I found her (winter) and the fact that I found it in synantropic habitat but Iam not rulling out the possibility just yet), if it's spider from the family Gnaphosidae then it is probably from the genera Scotophaeus or Drassodes (Scotophaeus is more likely as I didn't observed the spiders make sack in which they would hide during the day)

What should I do ?

Iam really afraid that the spider won't make it and starve and Iam also afraid that the cricket might die and cause a mold problem :/

Thanks very much in advance for any help ^ ^

The first 7 images is my spood after molting (with it's molt) and the 3 other images is my spider before molting (in pre-molt)

 

[Andrew Clayton]

It doesn't look that hungry the abdomen is still quite plump. I'd wait a few days then try, just take the cricket out also.

 

[Ratmosphere]

Wait a few days before feeding again. There should NOT be a live cricket in the enclosure with the spider, especially after it molted.

 

[Brewser]

Pleasantly Plump, Water and Wait Remove any uneaten prey items.

 

[KristianDobias]

It doesn't look that hungry the abdomen is still quite plump. I'd wait a few days then try, just take the cricket out also.

Thank Youuuu Very Much ^ ^

Oh Okay well Iam glad it doesn't look hungry

Yeah I know but can I please ask how ?
The cricket scurries away everytime I try to take it out and it just stresses the spider when I do so (opening of the enclousure)

 

[KristianDobias]

Wait a few days before feeding again. There should NOT be a live cricket in the enclosure with the spider, especially after it molted.

Thank Youuuu Very Much for help ^ ^

Yeah I know :/ but can you please tell me how to remove it ?
It is a little pin head cricket and it runs away and hides everytime I try to take it out, Iam also afraid that frequent moving and opening of the enclousure might stress the spood

 

[Ratmosphere]

The spider will be fine, trust me. Keep the lid off for a bit, lightly blow on the substrate to try to get the cricket to move, then grab the cricket with tongs.

 

[KristianDobias]

Pleasantly Plump, Water and Wait Remove any uneaten prey items.

Thank Youuuu Very Much ^ ^

I did, I dewed the enclousure yesterday, this species seems to prefer dry environments so next dewing will be on Friday (normaly I dew just once a week in Monday)

Yeah I know I should :/ but can you please tell me how ?

I tried removing the nymph but it is very small and it runs away and hides everytime I try to do so, the spider has web that is spun above most of the ground so it is also almsot impossible to get to most of the substrate and some places without damaging the web (which I don't wont as it might be stressful for the spood)

Iam also afraid that frequent opening and attempting to remove the cricket might be stressful for the spider, especially after molting (she curls up everytime I open the enclousure)

 

[KristianDobias]

The spider will be fine, trust me. Keep the lid off for a bit, lightly blow on the substrate to try to get the cricket to move, then grab the cricket with tongs.

Oh Okay Thank Youuuu Very Much ^ ^

Another good idea might be to give the cricket little piece of salad and catch it while it's eating

But there are still some compilations, the cricket ussualy hides under the cartoon and I can't move it or touch most of the substrate as the spider has spun a giant web above most of it (I know on the picture it looks like the spood is on the cartoon but it is actually in it's web and that it's spun above and around it)

Here on this picture the web should be more visible but it's actually a bit bigger than you can see here, it covers big part of the enclousure

 

[Andrew Clayton]

Oh Okay Thank Youuuu Very Much ^ ^

Another good idea might be to give the cricket little piece of salad and catch it while it's eating

But there are still some compilations, the cricket ussualy hides under the cartoon and I can't move it or touch most of the substrate as the spider has spun a giant web above most of it (I know on the picture it looks like the spood is on the cartoon but it is actually in it's web and that it's spun above and around it)

Here on this picture the web should be more visible but it's actually a bit bigger than you can see here, it covers big part of the enclousure

If you are having that much bother with it, try taking the spider out 1st very gently coax it into something then you can grab the cricket. Or see if you can just squish the cricket in there then remove it.

 

[KristianDobias]

If you are having that much bother with it, try taking the spider out 1st very gently coax it into something then you can grab the cricket. Or see if you can just squish the cricket in there then remove it.

Oh Okay Thank Youuuu Very Much ^ ^

Just won't damaging the web be stressful for the spider after molting ? (The older specimen always made a silken chamber in which it stayed until it was hardened so Iam afraid that damaging the web might be stressful for the spood as this specimen seem to modify it's web for molting purposes when it was in pre-molt, of course I would try to damage it as least as possible)

 

[Ratmosphere]

When did it molt? True spiders usually harden up within a few days.

 

[KristianDobias]

When did it molt? True spiders usually harden up within a few days.

It molted yesterday at evening/night

Thanks for the informations ^ ^

 

[Andrew Clayton]

Oh Okay Thank Youuuu Very Much ^ ^

Just won't damaging the web be stressful for the spider after molting ? (The older specimen always made a silken chamber in which it stayed until it was hardened so Iam afraid that damaging the web might be stressful for the spood as this specimen seem to modify it's web for molting purposes when it was in pre-molt, of course I would try to damage it as least as possible)

It's going to be more stressful for it with a live cricket in there than any damage you do to the web.

 

[KristianDobias]

It's going to be more stressful for it with a live cricket in there than any damage you do to the web.

Oh Okay Thanks everyone here very much for the help ^ ^

I can't even thank you enough, everytime I need help with my pets there are almost always people who help me and give me the right tips

Thank You Very Much again I will take the steps you suggested me to do

 

[KristianDobias]

It's going to be more stressful for it with a live cricket in there than any damage you do to the web.

Hello Everyone
UPDATE : I succesfully removed the uneaten cricket without needing to remove the spider and with minimal damage done to the web, I just had to dew the enclousure in order to lure the cricket out, unfortunately it was killed in the proces but it doesn't really matter since I have 2 pretty decent colonies (it used to be 1 ), the dead cricket was used as a food for Lithobidae centipede

Thanks Very Much Everyone here for your help ^ ^

 

[KristianDobias]

It's going to be more stressful for it with a live cricket in there than any damage you do to the web.

Hello fellow hobbyists I know I practicaly ended this thread but I really need your help
So it has been 3 days since my beauty molted (she molted in Sunday) and she looks really hungry now, but Iam not really sure if I should feed her or not because she doesn't look completely hardened yet, but Iam afraid poor thing might not survive to tommorow if I won't feed it
Please answer quick if it is possible
Thank You Very Much for any help in advance ^ ^
On the pictures you can see my spood and how small her ophistosoma is

 

[Andrew Clayton]

Give it something pre killed if you want.

 

[KristianDobias]

Give it something pre killed if you want.

Thank You Very Much for help ^ ^

Can I ask will spiders eat pre-kills as I know some centipedes will eat pre-kills but I never saw spoods eating pre-killed feeders ?

 

[KristianDobias]

Thank You Very Much for help ^ ^

Can I ask will spiders eat pre-kills as I know some centipedes will eat pre-kills but I never saw spoods eating pre-killed feeders ?

Hello Everyone
UPDATE : Okay so it actually took just few touches with twezers to iniciate feeding response of the spood (she almost imideatly launched to the pre-killed cricket nymph)

Thanks Everyone very much again for your help ^ ^

On the pictures you can see my little beauty eating the pre-killed cricket