My next T

[husoldire]

hey guys i have 3 tarantulas so far an avic avic a brachypelma boehmei and a rose hair can you guys recommend a tarantula to get next?

 

[TpleaseForMe]

l. parahybana my girl is round 6-7 inch and awesome i mean my third was a c. marshalli and very defensive T all depends i mean just be smart. but cant go wrong with. g pulchripes- choco golden knee or l. parahybana- brazian salmon pink birdeater i mean many more than that those are few i have and awesome tarantulas i love em

 

[husoldire]

are they fast growers? i like big Ts

 

[Jones0911]

hey guys i have 3 tarantulas so far an avic avic a brachypelma boehmei and a rose hair can you guys recommend a tarantula to get next?

You should get a OBT/ Pterinochilus murinus.

they are defensive but they grow fast, never need to be misted and don't need a water dish also they eat a lot and web a ton!!! They are a very hardy species as a sling so youd do just fine!

 

[ZTguy]

What ever you like most. I went from G.rosea, to A.avic, and my third was H.gigas. Loved that bugger. Only my 3rd T and it would stridulate and everything, heck I was the one who had to remove it from its container in the pet store. Imagine that, a tiny little 4" h.gigas. They were all to afraid of it. So really it's up to you and what you want. As long as you do a bit of research you will be fine.

 

[TpleaseForMe]

l. parahybanas are pretty quick and can reach 8+ legspan my t. stirmi is round 3-4 years old and is over 10 inchs haha

 

[tony119]

You should get a OBT/ Pterinochilus murinus.

they are defensive but they grow fast, never need to be misted and don't need a water dish also they eat a lot and web a ton!!! They are a very hardy species as a sling so youd do just fine!

careful of your advises. better research first which temperment you prefer before obtaining it. I admit, I'm scared of that fiery little demon OBT, I traded it for B.Smithi and it was a good choice as advise of my friends here.

 

[Jones0911]

As long as he/she does their proper research before getting ANY tarantula theyll do
fine with any final choice.

 

[Poec54]

As long as he/she does their proper research before getting ANY tarantula theyll do
fine with any final choice.

Wrong. You can't get it all from books. You need basic T experience before getting some species and OBT's are a bad choice for a newbie, as are Poecs and Stromatopelma. They're all extremely fast, defensive/aggressive, and have potent bites. It's an accident waiting to happen with a newbie.

 

[Jones0911]

you cant really avoid bites from any T. and books, research.on here and other reliable places will help. you cant get experience with an aggressivre T until you actually deal with one first hand.


dealing with docile Ts wont help you deal with an aggressive one in the futiure. so unless this person can get hands on help from someone he knows thats local , hes going
to have to learn on his own. so hes gonna have to reaearch ALL the ones he likes and take it from there. regardless of what we tell anyone
they will choose whatever T they want. all we can do is educate them on the backgrounds of each T they want and hope they make the right choice for thremselves. some people might be new to Ts but not other animals that might hurt them worse. i was giving my opinion, i wasnt forcing him to buy it

 

[husoldire]

i want a pokie real bad but i cant get it cause its not for newbies

 

[Poec54]

you cant really avoid bites from any T. and books, research.on here and other reliable places will help. you cant get experience with an aggressivre T until you actually deal with one first hand.

dealing with docile Ts wont help you deal with an aggressive one in the futiure... all we can do is educate them on the backgrounds of each T they want and hope they make the right choice for thremselves.

You don't learn to swim by jumping in the deep end and hoping you don't drown. Likewise with spiders, it makes sense to start with slow, docile species and get a feel for them. If someone starts with a lunatic like an OBT, there's a much higher chance of them panicking, with an escape or bite. Most people live with a family; it's not the kind of spider to have loose in the house. There's no reason to rush it. It's not 'beat the clock.' And all of this doesn't happen in a vacuum: People getting spiders beyond their skill/experience level is very inconsiderate for the people they live with, and is what will eventually get tarantulas banned. People come here asking for advice so they can make the 'right choice for themselves', and recommending OBT's for newbies is poor advice. They're relying on our good judgement; we can do better than that.

 

[BakerBert]

I currently have 2 T. (B. vagans and A. urticans)
My third will be a Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens (Green Bottle Blue)
Great Coloration, heavy webbers, out more often then not, hardy and need a dry environmental (No misting/Humidity issues).
They are suppose to be fast and a little skittish but new world so there venom is not nearly as dangerous as an OTB/pokie.

Good Luck with your choice.

 

[Jones0911]

our opinions will always differ on whats good for "newbies"... some people have other animal backgrounds that we dont know about, so until they tell us what those other animal backgrounds are we can only offer our opinions and then they might be respond with the previous type of animals theyve had in the past.

I'm sure someone (not this person) who has had experience with venomous snakes would be just fine with a pokie with etc because of their experience. we can recommend any T but its up the person to make the proper choices. they know whats best for them, Some people are born with confidence and fast animals might not worry/spook them. we can only by what they tell us.

and i did mention when i first brought up the OBT is that they are defensive and its the FIRST thing I said because its the most important. Defensive Ts usually come with potent venom, there are some docile Ts that are known to act crazy and that could still spook them, and get out of sight and hurt someone in the house.

Also raising a T from a Sling would also help them prepare for any speed and attitude of a OW tarantula, I'm not telling this person to go out and buy a 3 - 4" OBT.

I have two slings right now who arent really that fast, by the time they reach they aggressive stage some other people would be ready for them even some of the ones that grow fast because they will have done major research, reading all the posts etc. we dont give people enough credit on these boards for having intelligents and to think stuff do before they do it....even SOME of the "expects" have been bitten before and some of these people have been in this hobby all their life and they themselves have kids....No one is immune/perfect

All we can do is agree to disagree.

 

[JessH]

I started with quite a few docile species, then I got a p. irminia and a p. cambridgei. My husband and I went to a show recently and when we bought 2 spiders, we got a free OBT sling. Wasn't planning on owning one but I am working towards owning a Pokie someday so I'll have plenty of experience working with the OBT. I've owned T's for about a year now and just recently acquired the p irminia and the p cambridgei.

 

[Poec54]

I started with quite a few docile species, then I got a p. irminia and a p. cambridgei. My husband and I went to a show recently and when we bought 2 spiders, we got a free OBT sling. Wasn't planning on owning one but I am working towards owning a Pokie someday so I'll have plenty of experience working with the OBT. I've owned T's for about a year now and just recently acquired the p irminia and the p cambridgei.

And you're doing it the right way. Working your way up to the faster, short-tempered species. This is how it's supposed to work, and the kind of thing we're supposed to advise people to do. Thanks for not being in a hurry to dive into the crazier spiders. It's best for you, and the animal.

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our opinions will always differ on whats good for "newbies"... some people have other animal backgrounds that we dont know about, so until they tell us what those other animal backgrounds are we can only offer our opinions and then they might be respond with the previous type of animals theyve had in the past.

I'm sure someone (not this person) who has had experience with venomous snakes would be just fine with a pokie with etc because of their experience. we can recommend any T but its up the person to make the proper choices. they know whats best for them, Some people are born with confidence and fast animals might not worry/spook them. we can only by what they tell us.

and i did mention when i first brought up the OBT is that they are defensive and its the FIRST thing I said because its the most important. Defensive Ts usually come with potent venom, there are some docile Ts that are known to act crazy and that could still spook them, and get out of sight and hurt someone in the house.

Also raising a T from a Sling would also help them prepare for any speed and attitude of a OW tarantula, I'm not telling this person to go out and buy a 3 - 4" OBT.

I have two slings right now who arent really that fast, by the time they reach they aggressive stage some other people would be ready for them even some of the ones that grow fast because they will have done major research, reading all the posts etc. we dont give people enough credit on these boards for having intelligents and to think stuff do before they do it....even SOME of the "expects" have been bitten before and some of these people have been in this hobby all their life and they themselves have kids....No one is immune/perfect

All we can do is agree to disagree.

I have a couple hundred T's, mostly old world, half are Poecs. I just hatched out several sacs of OBT's, and paired up a number of Poecs. I'm very familiar with what fast defensive/aggressive T's can do, and what experience level it takes to work with them. BTW, I had a large collection of cobras in the past.

I think it's foolish to start off with OBT's, Poecs, and most old world T's. The odds are too high it's not going to end well. What's the rush? There's nothing to prove to anyone. Prior experience with other animals doesn't necessarily mean much. There's a lot of people with snakes, including venomous ones, that are freaked out by big spiders, especially when they run up a wall and extend their fangs (I know guys like this). Yes, a sling is better than an adult, but even starting with a sling, some species grow so fast, like OBT's, that they're up to 2" in a few months and already have a foul temper, and can run like a race car. That can spook the hell out of people. A newbie isn't ready for what can go wrong, no matter how much he's read.

When you're learning to drive, you don't start off with race cars, with snakes you don't start with venomous ones, and with spiders you don't start with fast/defensive/venomous ones. You work you way up in stages, and then you don't get in over your head. Confidence comes with experience. We have an obligation to recommend this to everyone who asks. Anything less is irresponsible on our part.

 

[Curious jay]

Poec has given some sound advice, Jones you keep throwing information out there without taking into consideration of what the TS current experience with Ts are. As Poec said, that's a fast track to incidents happening.

I started with B. vagans then began adding other NW species (ranging from some regarded docile, others not so much P. cancerides for example) I owned Ts for a year (with about 18+ months of research on top) before I even considered an OW (I have pets etc wanted to make sure I had the confidence in myself before jumping in).

My first OW purchase was a C. darlingi (which is arguably the most docile T I own, not to be underestimated or taken for granted though) since then I've added a A. ezendami and P. murinus sling (so far the A. ezendami is the one full of attitude at only 1.5cm) and my preference is slightly leaning to OW > NW currently (except certain NW, Hapalopus, Catumiri and a few others mainly dwarf).

But if I had went with something with the attitude my A. ezendami currently has as a first T (most new users will buy adults to get used to them, so the T is already going to have speed and maybe an extremely defensive disposition out the gate) I would of felt intimidated personally.

If you aren't accustomed to a Ts behaviour it will make it that much more difficult to determine how to handle the T, the last thing a newbie needs in my opinion is a 6" speed demon in full threat posture greeting them when they attempt their first transfer of a tarantula.

 

[Poec54]

the last thing a newbie needs in my opinion is a 6" speed demon in full threat posture greeting them when they attempt their first transfer of a tarantula.

And mama ain't going to be happy to find out that an OBT is loose in the house because the new T owner got spooked.

 

[xkris]

Might I add one thing that a newbie needs even less than a 6" speed demon in full threat posture? Its a 6" highly venomous speed demon loose in the house. Lol!
So it can bite the cat. Or hang down from the chandelier and jump his mother on the head.

 

[EightLeggedFreaks]

our opinions will always differ on whats good for "newbies"... some people have other animal backgrounds that we dont know about, so until they tell us what those other animal backgrounds are we can only offer our opinions and then they might be respond with the previous type of animals theyve had in the past.

It doesn't matter what animal background you have. Tarantula's aren't other animals. They aren't dogs, they aren't cats, they aren't snakes. They are Tarantulas. OBT's are not good beginner inverts even if they are slings.

OP: GBB's are nice, they are skittish, can bet a little defensive but overall their bite isn't that bad. You could go LP as well, they grow big and fast and generally are not aggressive or defensive. You could stick with avics for there are many different types, such as versicolors. They have amazing colors and most are relatively docile.