My lot and a belated hello.

[callum b]

Hello,

I have been lurking around on this forum for a long time but have never really posted. To make up for never saying hello and not posting, here are a few pics of the lot I share my house with :biggrin:

First up the Euscorpius....

Euscorpius italicus 2.3

Female E. italicus collected at Lake Garda, Italy.

Male E. italicus from Lake Garda.

Female E. italicus from Croatia. Note how much darker this one is than the others collected in Italy.

Euscorpius germanus 1.3 collected from Lake Garda.

Male E. germanus

Female E. germanus

Euscorpius sicanus 0.7

Female E. sicanus. She has a strange 'injury' on her 3rd righthand leg. Unsure on what it is but if anyone has any ideas please shout out.

Another girly. I have no males so I am hoping at least one of the 7 females is already gravid lol.

Euscorpius tergestinus 0.1

Tiny little 2i Euscorpius concinnus 0.0.2

Euscorpius flavicaudis 1(?).1.20 from right here in the UK!!! I'm so proud of our single scorpion species we have over here. Even if it is introduced lol.

Female E. flavicaudis

Tiny 2i E. flavicaudis.

Next up Euscorpiops vachoni from Tibet 0.2(?).1 Really like the look of these guys however, they are without a doubt the least active of all my scorpions.

And a little, unknown age E. vachoni.

Unknown sex, adult Caraboctonus keyserlingi. I love how meaty their tails are!

The very cute, very tiny and hopefully gravid Chaerilus celebensis.

Adult female Hadogenes paucidens 0.1

Heterometrus madraspatensis 0.2. Definately my favourite Het.

Heteroscorpion opisthacanthoides 0.1(?) from Madagascar.

Iurus cf. asiaticus 3.1.1 from Turkey. Had a bit of a disaster raising the young from my female and unfortunately lost 5 of the 6 before they reached 2i. The one that did make it though is going strong

Female I. asiaticus just after the 5 young turned to mush on her back!!

Adult male.

Sub-adult male.

Surviving 2i

Very fat 4i Iomachus politus.

Nebo hierichonticus 0.1 Desperately seeking a male for her. These are definately one of my all time favourite scorpions. It took me nearly a year to find this girly. Why are they so hard to get hold of lol??

Opisthacanthus madagascariensis 0.0.1 from, you guessed it, Madagascar.

Opistophthalmus glabrifrons 0.1(?) Excuse the orange lighting lol. My favourite pet hole lol.

Opistophthalmus lamorali 1.0 Of course being an Opistophthalmus you never see it lol but here is a pic of its enclosure.

Scorpio maurus palmatus 0.0.2.

Right, thats everything I have got pics of. I have a few more scorpions but I am sure everyone has had enough of seeing P. imperator and H. arizonensis pics lol.

And for all you EU and USA keepers, you can have a decent sized collection of scorpions without Buthidae lol. I'm just saying that because I am so jealous of you guys. Stupid British DWA laws lol.

Hope I have introduced myself properly and you guys enjoy the pics :biggrin:

 

[Set]

Great photos! That's a very nice collection!

 

[2nscorpx]

Nice pictures! You have a very interesting collection, and I like the enclosure for the O. lamorali!

 

[lizardminion]

Nice pics and an even better collection! Amazing!

 

[Hendersoniana]

You got a nice collection there! I want your Euscorpius collection and madras :}. Thanks for sharing and welcome to the forums!

 

[winter_in_tears]

amazing collection of some rare species!!

 

[Kaiser Scorpion]

Hello!


You are a great collection but I think that some species are wronlgy classified.
About Euscorpius spp., can you make photos of ventral aspect of chela, please?
Which is the exact locality collection from Italy?


I suppose that some your not European scorpions are buyed from Martin...
The scorpion from Madagascar is not an Heteroscorpion but it is an Opisthacanthus.
A lot of shops sell them as Heteroscorpion.


About Iurus sp from Turkey, can you make some photos of genital operculum and pectines, please?
(Maybe in an other thread).
I bought a couple from Martin but probably he sent me two females and they are not I. asiaticus.
I think that it is intersting to discover the correct species.
If you open a new topic about Iurus, I can add my photos about them.
Thank you!

 

[callum b]

Hello!


You are a great collection but I think that some species are wronlgy classified.
About Euscorpius spp., can you make photos of ventral aspect of chela, please?
Which is the exact locality collection from Italy?


I suppose that some your not European scorpions are buyed from Martin...
The scorpion from Madagascar is not an Heteroscorpion but it is an Opisthacanthus.
A lot of shops sell them as Heteroscorpion.


About Iurus sp from Turkey, can you make some photos of genital operculum and pectines, please?
(Maybe in an other thread).
I bought a couple from Martin but probably he sent me two females and they are not I. asiaticus.
I think that it is intersting to discover the correct species.
If you open a new topic about Iurus, I can add my photos about them.
Thank you!

Hi Kaiser, with the Italian Euscorpius ''italicus'' i was also a little dubious about whether they were really this species. The location of collection was Lake Garda, Italy but as to where around Lake Garda I do not know. To me they appear to lightly coloured and look more like E. flavicaudis however, they are larger than my E. flavicaudis that I have from the UK. I tried asking people about this matter on another forum but no one could really give me an answer except to count the trichobothria on the pedipalps. Very difficult to do whilst still alive lol.

I have searched a lot for information on Heteroscorpion and cannot find any really good info on them. I did find out that they grow larger than my current specimen that was sold to me as Heteroscorpion but put this down to it maybe being a sub-adult?? Do you have any idea what species of Opisthacanthus are being mistakenly sold as Heteroscorpion?

I originally just knew the Iurus as Iurus sp. but after talking to others came to the conclusion of I. asiaticus based on little evidence haha. Lazyness on our part really lol. I will try and get some pics of the genital operculum and pectines for you. Do you want both males and females? I am also interested in finding out the exact species. I have seen a few I. kraeplini for sale recently so it could possibly be them??

As for Martin, I have given up buying from him. I'm fed up of problem after problem with his orders.

Thanks for all the kind comments guys

 

[callum b]

Kaiser, I have had a go at getting some pics of the ventral aspect of the chela of my E. italicus. The pictures aren't great quality but you can make out the trichobothria. I also tried to photograph the E. germanus but my camera struggled to focus on something so small.

Here is the 'dark' E. italicus from Croatia. It is a female and it's colouration is very true to E. italicus i.e. almost black mesosoma, metasoma, vesicle and pedipalps, and dark brown legs. From what I can see on the picture it has at least 9 trichobothria.

Here is one of my male E. italicus from Lake Garda, Italy. It's mesosoma, metasoma and vesicle are dark grey/brown in colour but not as dark as the specimen from Croatia. It's pedipalps are again dark but the tips of the fingers are very red. The legs are a lighter shade of brown than the scorpion from Croatia. I'm pretty sure I can make out at least 10 trichobothria on the chela.

Going from the identification key for Euscorpius sp. on scorpion files, the arrangement of the trichobothria fits with the diagram provided for E. italicus. However, it does also state that E. italicus typically have 11-13 trichobothria located on the ventral aspect of the chela and I cannot see this many on the pictures I have taken. This could be due to the poor quality of the images though. What do you think Kaiser?

Do you want pictures of the other species? The E. italicus and E. germanus are the only ones I was slightly concerned about being misidentified. Do you think some of the others could have possibly been misidentified. In my opinion the E. sicanus and tergestinus look pretty true to from but a second opinion is always helpful.

I will carry on playing about with my camera to try and get some pics of the trichobothria of the E. germanus. Although, from what I have read this method of ID'ing can be flawed with E. germanus and E. alpha as both species can have 5 trichobothria on the V A of the chela.

 

[Kaiser Scorpion]

Hello Callum!


The scorpions of two last photos are surely E. italicus.
In my garden, in Italy, I find dark E. italicus as your from Croatia.


For E. germanus and E. alpha, it is very important the locality collection.
Lake Garda is our biggest lake. It is in northen Italy. The river Adige is at east of lake Garda so your scorpions should be E. alpha.


For other Euscorpius spp., if you add some other photos, I could help you.

 

[callum b]

Happy days. I was struggling to identify them as scorpion files says both are found west of the river Adige. So I was like hmmmm they are both from the same area and counting the trichobothria isn't always reliable for this species. How the hell am I going to know for sure haha? Glad to have that conundrum solved.

I'm pretty convinced that the E. sicanus and tergestinus are correctly identified but I guess it wouldn't hurt checking. It'll also give me a chance to get to grips with my camera lol.

The E. flavicaudis were collected from Sheerness in Kent. There is an estimated population of 10 000 scorpions that inhabit an old wall near the docks. Unfortunately though, there is talk of the wall being pulled down in the not to distant future which could mean an end to scorpions in the UK. It is a real shame in my opinion as this is the only certified population of them here in the UK.

 

[Kaiser Scorpion]

Happy days. I was struggling to identify them as scorpion files says both are found west of the river Adige. So I was like hmmmm they are both from the same area and counting the trichobothria isn't always reliable for this species. How the hell am I going to know for sure haha? Glad to have that conundrum solved.

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On scorpion-files there is an error about them in Euscorpius identification keys.
If you read the descriptions of species on scorpion-files, you can understand.

 

[callum b]

Yer it had me stumped. I should have checked the species biographies.

 

[the toe cutter]

VEry nice collection. It is good to see people with some different species on here finally.