moms eating her babies how to stop?

habnoji

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I bought a black Asian forest scorpion 8 months ago and today she had babies the problem is she is eating them I have about 8 chrickets in the tank for food how do I stop her from eating them? There was about 25 to start im down to about 15 now?
 

Anastasia

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did you tried to troubleshoot her? or Suggested to stop eating her kids?
Ah, Am kidding
well I have that happened before, and usually when there is something wrong with offspring's they get eaten
all healthy ones make just fine
I wish I can help more
 

SixShot666

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First you should probably remove those crickets from the enclosure. They're probably stressing her out. As for her eating the scorplings, there's really nothing much you can do until they molt into their 2nd instar. Then I would separate the little one from the mother.
 

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I agree with SixShot666. The first step you should take is to remove all of the crickets. Scorpions will not usually accept prey items just before or just after giving birth, so leaving them in the tank will produce unnecessary stress for the mother.
 

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Crickets tend to stress Scorpions out in general. I put about 10 of them with my P. Imperator and found they were overwhelming her. She was literally running from them. After I removed all but 4 or 5 of them, she calmed down. I would remove them all. Also it may be a good idea to try and stay away from the enclosure as much as possible.
 

habnoji

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Im sorry to say my scorpion ate all her babies then last night I found her dead.I dont understand why she died.I'm really upset my wife doesnt understand why im upset in her words (its a bug)ewww.Well I liked it! After the babies issue, this sparked something in me.I am now looking for a few new scorpions and will set up a really nice 55 gal and try to breed them.Only issue is I live in Conn.You cant get them in my state I was on buisness in mississippi and brought mine back.I would like to get some more black forest scorpions any one know where or who has them.I will travel up to 150 miles to get good healthy pets. I have already started setting up the tank im looking for some plants now.How many can you put in a 55 gal tank will they fight?or should I only put 2. I do know how to sex them I know mine was a female from a book I picked the only female they had.Guess i was correct.
 

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You can buy scorpions online.
Try kenthebugguy.com or tarantulainc.com for starters
We also have the classifieds section here with breeders who can ship them to you.
If you ask, I'm sure they can sex a pair for you too.
You can put quite a few in a 55 gal, but I'm not sure on the numbers, probably more than 10.
 

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Im sorry to say my scorpion ate all her babies then last night I found her dead.I dont understand why she died.I'm really upset my wife doesnt understand why im upset in her words (its a bug)ewww.Well I liked it! After the babies issue, this sparked something in me.I am now looking for a few new scorpions and will set up a really nice 55 gal and try to breed them.Only issue is I live in Conn.You cant get them in my state I was on buisness in mississippi and brought mine back.I would like to get some more black forest scorpions any one know where or who has them.I will travel up to 150 miles to get good healthy pets. I have already started setting up the tank im looking for some plants now.How many can you put in a 55 gal tank will they fight?or should I only put 2. I do know how to sex them I know mine was a female from a book I picked the only female they had.Guess i was correct.
Try KentheBugGuy.com he has some really great selection.
 

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Im sorry to say my scorpion ate all her babies then last night I found her dead.I dont understand why she died.I'm really upset my wife doesnt understand why im upset in her words (its a bug)ewww.Well I liked it! After the babies issue, this sparked something in me.I am now looking for a few new scorpions and will set up a really nice 55 gal and try to breed them.Only issue is I live in Conn.You cant get them in my state I was on buisness in mississippi and brought mine back.I would like to get some more black forest scorpions any one know where or who has them.I will travel up to 150 miles to get good healthy pets. I have already started setting up the tank im looking for some plants now.How many can you put in a 55 gal tank will they fight?or should I only put 2. I do know how to sex them I know mine was a female from a book I picked the only female they had.Guess i was correct.
no offense but if you removed the crickets and left her alone, she probably wouldnt have ate the babies.
 

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I bought a black Asian forest scorpion 8 months ago and today she had babies the problem is she is eating them I have about 8 chrickets in the tank for food how do I stop her from eating them? There was about 25 to start im down to about 15 now?
Start with removing the eight crickets runnning around in the enclosure. these are most probably the stressor that made her eat the young in the first place.
I am sorry to say it, but this is a beginnersmistake. If you would have done your homework, the chance that this would happen was significantly smaller. But I do have to add, that scorpions also sometimes eat their young without an obvious reason. Even if captive conditions are good and there are no stressors.
Next time your scorp has young, remove all prey items and leave it alone, don't look daily or take pics daily. You don't need to feed the mother, you can do that after the young left her.
 

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Start with removing the eight crickets runnning around in the enclosure. these are most probably the stressor that made her eat the young in the first place.
I am sorry to say it, but this is a beginnersmistake. If you would have done your homework, the chance that this would happen was significantly smaller. But I do have to add, that scorpions also sometimes eat their young without an obvious reason. Even if captive conditions are good and there are no stressors.
Next time your scorp has young, remove all prey items and leave it alone, don't look daily or take pics daily. You don't need to feed the mother, you can do that after the young left her.
I think the OP is going through enough without a smarty pants coming along and telling them what a bad person they are.
Shame on you .
All they want is help.
No wonder people are worried about asking questions here and then it is the animal that will suffer so well done:clap:
 
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Hi, are you set on getting Asian scorpions(Heterometrus species)? Ime, Emperor scorpions(Pandinus imperator) tolerate each other a little better and take care of the young a little better. When I've had emp babies, they run back to the mom if there's danger. With the few Heterometrus broods I've had, once they are off the mom's back, they're not so happy to run back to mom for protection. I recently separated the mother from a Heterometrus brood and put in a couple of crushed roaches. Last night I saw a scorpling carrying around another one having a happy meal so I separated them.
 

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I think the OP is going through enough without a smarty pants coming along and telling them what a bad person they are.
Shame on you .
All they want is help.
No wonder people are worried about asking questions here and then it is the animal that will suffer so well done:clap:
Come on Paul,

I think that one should know what they are keeping and how they should keep it. Doing your homework, which means nosing around for 15 minutes here one this board, you would have had enough info, is given the species (which is very common in the hobby, so there is a lot of info), not a very difficult or time costing effort.
Throwing in 8 crickets for one scorpion is not necessary anyway, especially when they are gravid. By the way, I ended my post with some well meant advice, so I was not only being a smarty pants, but I also helped him out a little.
If you are concerned about the animals, you would agree with me. Learn first, then buy....do you buy buy a car before you can drive it?

Regards, Michiel

Regards, Michiel
 
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gromgrom

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Come on Paul,

I think that one should know what they are keeping and how they should keep it. Doing your homework, which means nosing around for 15 minutes here one this board, you would have had enough info, is given the species (which is very common in the hobby, so there is a lot of info), not a very difficult or time costing effort.
Throwing in 8 crickets for one scorpion is not necessary anyway, especially when they are gravid. By the way, I ended my post with some well meant advice, so I was not only being a smarty pants, but I also helped him out a little.
If you are concerned about the animals, you would agree with me. Learn first, then buy....do you buy buy a car before you can drive it?

Regards, Michiel
+1

really, its not that board members are rude, its that the common sense of doing some googling and searching is thrown to the wayside, and the same questions are answered week after week. new hobbyists shouldnt be in the hobby if they arent willing to research the animals they are impulse buying. I say impulse buying because they obviously dont know what theyre buying if they dont know what it even is and how they behave.
 

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Just keep in mind that not every individual may be as resourceful or even have the same resources as you or I. I know plenty of individuals who don't own a computer nor are they even old enough (perhaps a child) or knowledgeable enough to take advantage of its uses including the internet (ie Google). They may be a computer from the local library and simply don't have the time to search. I know that when I found this forum I asked simple questions because I felt this was the site to get any and all of my scorpion needs. I didn't even think about Googling "scorpion caresheet" and I definitely didn't even think about using the Search function nor did I even see it. It completely slipped my mind because I found an awesome site full members who shared my same interests. Some people just don't know how forums operate, like I did! What I'm trying to say is that there are many different people out there with many different circumstances. The above may not apply to this individual, but it could very well apply to others. It's best to simply point them in the right direction with as much courtesy and respect as possible. If you don't want to answer a question or waste your time because it's too ridiculous of a question for you, then don't. If you don't have any constructive advice, I'm sure the person would appreciate you keeping it to yourself. Just remember, you are not obliged in any way to give an answer and your "common sense" is not someone else's. Welcome newcomers and provide help, this is a community I'm sure we all want to see growing healthily and strong.

As for habnoji, you can find a variety of information with the Search button above or through Googling, but as a bit of quick advice, provide lots of hides, food, and burrowing substrate if you're planning a large communal tank.
 

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To the OP. Sorry for your loss. Better luck next time, eh?

I recommend kenthebugguy.com too. Also, try tarantulainc.com they're sold out of a lot of stuff right now, but keep checking back in.

Do you know what species you'd want to get next? Maybe a desert species, or another forest species?

Also, 55gal tank 0_0
You're going to have one HUGE colony right there. I'd like to see how you set it up. Take some pictures of it if you end up doing that. Best of luck!
 

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Just keep in mind that not every individual may be as resourceful or even have the same resources as you or I. I know plenty of individuals who don't own a computer nor are they even old enough (perhaps a child) or knowledgeable enough to take advantage of its uses including the internet (ie Google). They may be a computer from the local library and simply don't have the time to search. I know that when I found this forum I asked simple questions because I felt this was the site to get any and all of my scorpion needs. I didn't even think about Googling "scorpion caresheet" and I definitely didn't even think about using the Search function nor did I even see it. It completely slipped my mind because I found an awesome site full members who shared my same interests. Some people just don't know how forums operate, like I did! What I'm trying to say is that there are many different people out there with many different circumstances. The above may not apply to this individual, but it could very well apply to others. It's best to simply point them in the right direction with as much courtesy and respect as possible. If you don't want to answer a question or waste your time because it's too ridiculous of a question for you, then don't. If you don't have any constructive advice, I'm sure the person would appreciate you keeping it to yourself. Just remember, you are not obliged in any way to give an answer and your "common sense" is not someone else's. Welcome newcomers and provide help, this is a community I'm sure we all want to see growing healthily and strong.

As for habnoji, you can find a variety of information with the Search button above or through Googling, but as a bit of quick advice, provide lots of hides, food, and burrowing substrate if you're planning a large communal tank.
We have a crusader here,

I suggest you answer all noob questions forthwith! :)

but stick to the subject, this guy had a computer, how could he post anyway?We don't see a lot of people who DON't own computers here, don't you think? The above applies to everyone! You known those little organized bunch of papers called books? Not one single thing you said in your post dismisses a person to know what kind of pet one is getting and the responsibility to know how to take care of it.
What I can understand is the fact that if the hobby is new, and websites are new, that one can't find the search function and such. I had the same problem, and I also agree when you say that one should not answer a question when one doesn't want to answer it or feels it is the 100.000.000 time the same question is answered.
 
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