Mature male molts????

[Witchwithoutabroom]

My Tlitocatl albopilosus matured in 2022 and has just decided he's not mature enough and molted again. Isn't that pretty rare? I hope he survives. His abdomen got stuck in the molt but I hope I removed the most harmful part

 

[Mustafa67]

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My Tlitocatl albopilosus matured in 2022 and has just decided he's not mature enough and molted again. Isn't that pretty rare? I hope he survives. His abdomen got stuck in the molt but I hope I removed the most harmful part

He wasn’t mature before, he is now

 

[Wolfram1]

Its calles a post-ultimate molt. Pretty rare yea, and most dont survive it. Nature hasn't really gifted them a plan on how to go on and most dont make it out of their skin without either ripping their emboli or even whole pedipalps off, or even more common they get stuck in the molt and die that way.

any pics of his pedipalps?

Sucks if there is no genetic plan to shed their sexual organs....

 

[jennywallace]

Are you sure it matured in 2022? As has been said, it's pretty rare and usually the spider doesn't survive.

 

[Wolfram1]

we can all see the picture of the exuviae that has emboli, so yea that gives credence to the claims, not to mention it has come up a couple of times on AB, so it's not unheard off

survival of the mature males can range from about 1-3 years after maturing, some longer lived ones have reports of up to 5 as far as i remember, maybe even longer

 

[jennywallace]

we can all see the picture of the exuviae that has emboli, so yea that gives credence to the claims, not to mention it has come up a couple of times on AB, so it's not unheard off

survival of the mature males can range from about 1-3 years after maturing, some longer lived ones have reports of up to 5 as far as i remember, maybe even longer

Oh yeah, sorry, didn't see the emboli on the exuvia!

 

[Witchwithoutabroom]

Its calles a post-ultimate molt. Pretty rare yea, and most dont survive it. Nature hasn't really gifted them a plan on how to go on and most dont make it out of their skin without either ripping their emboli or even whole pedipalps off, or even more common they get stuck in the molt and die that way.

any pics of his pedipalps?

Sucks if there is no genetic plan to shed their sexual organs....

He's not hardend up yet but the pedipalps look kind of deformed or do they always look like this right after molting?

 

[Wolfram1]

looks like he ripped the flesh out of his emboly, i hope they dry off and heal over without causing an infection.

probably best to leave it well alone and hope he recovers. He wont be able to mate anyhow.

 

[Witchwithoutabroom]

Thank you I hope he will survive this too If it doesn't heal and he's suffering I will probably put him in the freezer

 

[Wolfram1]

good luck, make sure he has a water dish close by. Dehydration is probably his biggest enemy right now.

 

[Witchwithoutabroom]

Is this close enough?

 

[jennywallace]

Best of luck with your boy, hope he's OK.

 

[fcat]

Just want to say how handsome he looks. So fluffy

I'm hopeful for you guys, this is best looking/least intervention post-mature molt I think I've seen.

 

[IntermittentSygnal]

I’d put something smaller and sunk into the substrate nearby him incase he doesn’t have the energy to get to and up the other one. Perhaps just a bottle cap.

 

[Wolfram1]

or you could try dripping a few drops of water right between their chelicerae into the web underneath

i wouldnt mess with the substraten right now

 

[Witchwithoutabroom]

or you could try dripping a few drops of water right between their chelicerae into the web underneath

i wouldnt mess with the substraten right now

I tried that earlier, he didn't like it and got stressed and tried to kick hair

But I am Kind of hopeful. He looks so much better already and moved around/turned around. I keep you updated. Thanks everyone

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

Wow I’ve never had a mm molt a second time before , I hope yours survives!! Fingers crossed

 

[Witchwithoutabroom]

Little update: I think his pedipalps are healing, he's hardening, had a drink from his waterbowl and doing fine so far

 

[Witchwithoutabroom]

I do have a question now: is a stuck molt dangerous if its still stuck to the booklungs? And how can I help? I just sprayed lots of water on it through the holes of the enclosure and he seemed to like it (held is abdomen towards the water). Will he be able to peel it off himself or is it stuck forever now?

 

[Witchwithoutabroom]

Update: post ultimate molted T. albopilosum

My T.albopilosum mature male molted again on the 28th of June for anyone who can remember or is interested in the topic.
He's still alive, eats well, and even makes sperm webs. I hope he has another 3 years or so to live https://arachnoboards.com/threads/mature-male-molts.368902/