Making new stick insect color morhps

[Carthropod]

hi, my indian stick insect just got adult, so i have a few questions avout breeding stick insects in general(so not only indian stick insects)
with the australian prickly leaf insect there are 3 general know color morhps brown green and white, the white can be made if a nymph (before the first molt i belive) is in a tank with much white or in this case alot of lichen it will become white, is this posible with diffrent species not crazy colors but if i put (idc what species) in a really black tank will it somehow become black?

thanks!

 

[Elytra and Antenna]

There is an article on an experiment showing exactly how the lichen version is caused. http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/elytraandantenna/images/IMCoverApril17.JPG
Unfortunately with phasmids you're not going to be able to breed for a certain color but if you know how, you can change them.

 

[ColeopteraC]

hi, my indian stick insect just got adult, so i have a few questions avout breeding stick insects in general(so not only indian stick insects)
with the australian prickly leaf insect there are 3 general know color morhps brown green and white, the white can be made if a nymph (before the first molt i belive) is in a tank with much white or in this case alot of lichen it will become white, is this posible with diffrent species not crazy colors but if i put (idc what species) in a really black tank will it somehow become black?

thanks!

In a black enclosure it would perhaps become a darker colour but the lichen colour form is the only really distinctive E.Tiriatum colour-form. All the others are simply lighter or darker variants of the typical morph.

If you want some really interesting colour form variations try phyllium, dependent on the moisture in their enclosure some species will range from a strong yellow to lush green or even an autumn leaf type orange colouration.

 

[Carthropod]

There is an article on an experiment showing exactly how the lichen version is caused. http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/elytraandantenna/images/IMCoverApril17.JPG
Unfortunately with phasmids you're not going to be able to breed for a certain color but if you know how, you can change them.

hey the link you gave is a picture???

 

[Elytra and Antenna]

There is an article on an experiment showing exactly how the lichen version is caused.

I forgot to mention the theories running across the internet and even in previous papers are all wrong. This article describes a repeatable method of producing the form while previous papers were only inaccurate guestimates on possible causes.

Also, here's a neat one that's hard to reproduce: gynandromorphy:

http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/elytraandantenna/images/IMCoverApril20.JPG

 

[Elytra and Antenna]

hey the link you gave is a picture???

Yes, it is the cover of the magazine that has the article. There is no electronic version.

 

[Carthropod]

Yes, it is the cover of the magazine that has the article. There is no electronic version.

oh beacue i wanted to know how it happens, and any link to those theories^?

 

[Carthropod]

In a black enclosure it would perhaps become a darker colour but the lichen colour form is the only really distinctive E.Tiriatum colour-form. All the others are simply lighter or darker variants of the typical morph.

If you want some really interesting colour form variations try phyllium, dependent on the moisture in their enclosure some species will range from a strong yellow to lush green or even an autumn leaf type orange colouration.

yeah in my like 5 posts nearly all of them were about that i couldnt get more insects, so thats why i asked if it is possible for indian stick insect

 

[ColeopteraC]

yeah in my like 5 posts nearly all of them were about that i couldnt get more insects, so thats why i asked if it is possible for indian stick insect

Not in Indian sticks no, I’ve seen a couple that vary slightly in shade but nothing dramatic enough to label as a ‘colour morph’.

 

[Carthropod]

Not in Indian sticks no, I’ve seen a couple that vary slightly in shade but nothing dramatic enough to label as a ‘colour morph’.

yeah my ''male'' is dark brown my female is light yellow green like the stem of the herdera

 

[Carthropod]

yeah my ''male'' is dark brown my female is light yellow green like the stem of the herdera

cant wait for the babies, takes around 2 months to hatch right, sad i need to wait that long

 

[ColeopteraC]

yeah my ''male'' is dark brown my female is light yellow green like the stem of the herdera

Exactly, but these differences aren’t dramatic enough to label as ‘colour morphs’. If you do want to achieve this try experimenting with food plant (if possible) temperature and moisture in the enclosures.

From my experience less moisture and darker foodplants will result in darker colouration. Lighter foodplant and more moisture resulting in more vivid lighter shades.

 

[Carthropod]

Exactly, but these differences aren’t dramatic enough to label as ‘colour morphs’. If you do want to achieve this try experimenting with food plant (if possible) temperature and moisture in the enclosures.

From my experience less moisture and darker foodplants will result in darker colouration. Lighter foodplant and more moisture resulting in more vivid lighter shades.

Hi just a quick question do you have experience with E.Tiriatum morphs and making them, and if yes would it be possible to do it without lichen but using a diffrent method of coloring the enclosure white?