Looking for a cool, short lived pet

Aidan0719

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I’m currently 16 years old and have a huge fascination with invertebrates of all kinds. I want to get a tarantula, but I know I won’t be able to keep it for long because I plan on living on a college campus in the future and I don’t think many colleges allow pets. Because of this, I was wondering if there are any cool, reasonable to take car of invertebrates out there that dont live more than 2 years
 

Matts inverts

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Chinese mantis or diabolical ironclad beetles. The mantis lives for a year and the diabolical ironclad beetle lives for up to two years. And bugs in cyberspace has both right now.

If you want a spider, I recommend a jumping spider
 

RoachCoach

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Chinese mantis or diabolical ironclad beetles. The mantis lives for a year and the diabolical ironclad beetle lives for up to two years. And bugs in cyberspace has both right now.
He is right on the money although Ironclad will cost a whole bucket load in comparison to mantids. Mantids are a way better buy. They are very gnarly in their hunting and eating. Their humidity requirements can sometimes be an impediment though. Calling @mantisfan101 to weigh in.
 

Matts inverts

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The ironclad is 50 for five which is the recommended size colony or you can get desert stink beetles
 

RoachCoach

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You could always capture an alate ant queen when they are flying around and have her build you a massive colony. Then when the time comes, just put them back into the wild.
 

RoachCoach

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The ironclad is 50 for five which is the recommended size colony or you can get desert stink beetles
Finding them is the issue. You got a connection? Mantids are very easy to come by with tons of reputable sellers on this board.

Otherwise pretty much any true spider you can find within 20 feet of your house or even IN your house should provide free entertainment for a year. Plus whatever they are hunting is there, for free too.
 

Matts inverts

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I can collect ironclad beetles where I live but bugs in cyberspace has some or some shows or shops have them.
 

Poonjab

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Don’t get one. Doesn’t make sense for you to get one at this point in time in your life.
 

Poonjab

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You can get one as long as it’s not a long lived species.
Then his best bet would would be a mature male tarantula. My argument stems from the possibility that it would lived longer than he planned, and then what? Feel he would be better off to wait until he/she figures out things a lil better.
 

RoachCoach

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Then his best bet would would be a mature male tarantula. My argument stems from the possibility that it would lived longer than he planned, and then what? Feel he would be better off to wait until he/she figures out things a lil better.
No, are you crazy? He could always sell a MM to us for cheap because he doesn't need it any longer. I'm offering 20% per MM than @Poonjab :greedy:
 

goliathusdavid

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I would not recommend either bess beetles (which live a few years) or diabolical ironclads (the legal acquisition of which can sometimes be difficult without permits, especially as you are in Ohio). I think a Chinese Mantis could be a good choice, and USA rhino beetles are also a possibility, as they only live a few months (but would require permitting).
I want to push back a little on the idea proposed by @Poonjab that this is not the right time in your life for any invert pets. Is it the ideal time to branch into inverts? Probably not. But that doesn't necessarily mean that you shouldn't still dip your toes in. Personally, I only started my private collection last year after working for years with various institutions keeping arthropods. Yes, college can be an issue. But if you have a plan (which I know I do) it is a problem that can be circumvented.
 

RoachCoach

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I would not recommend either bess beetles (which live a few years) or diabolical ironclads (the legal acquisition of which can sometimes be difficult without permits, especially as you are in Ohio). I think a Chinese Mantis could be a good choice, and USA rhino beetles are also a possibility, as they only live a few months (but would require permitting).
I want to push back a little on the idea proposed by @Poonjab that this is not the right time in your life for any invert pets. Is it the ideal time to branch into inverts? Probably not. But that doesn't necessarily mean that you shouldn't still dip your toes in. Personally, I only started my private collection last year after working for years with various institutions keeping arthropods. Yes, college can be an issue. But if you have a plan (which I know I do) it is a problem that can be circumvented.
As much as I love beetles as the next dude, I think he should be looking more for local species to whet his appetite. Either local or get a quick mantis. And I 100% guarantee you there are about 50 people that are more than willing to let you release mantis in their gardens as a free insecticide.
 

goliathusdavid

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As much as I love beetles as the next dude, I think he should be looking more for local species to whet his appetite. Either local or get a quick mantis. And I 100% guarantee you there are about 50 people that are more than willing to let you release mantis in their gardens as a free insecticide.
Makes total sense to me. Native\naturalized mantis or other local species for my recommendation it is then. And yes, I know quite a few of those people :rofl:
 

Salmonsaladsandwich

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I doubt a mantis lifespan is gonna be an issue considering that basically all species live for a year or less.

Assassin bugs are another option that only live around 2 years, though they're also likely to breed if you have multiple and I think keeping a single assassin is kinda boring.
 

Dry Desert

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I’m currently 16 years old and have a huge fascination with invertebrates of all kinds. I want to get a tarantula, but I know I won’t be able to keep it for long because I plan on living on a college campus in the future and I don’t think many colleges allow pets. Because of this, I was wondering if there are any cool, reasonable to take car of invertebrates out there that dont live more than 2 years
Not sure on the laws or permit requirements in Ohio, my choice would be a pair of stick or leaf insects. Okay as a pair they will eventually mate, any eggs laid can take up to 18 months to hatch, and the adults only live for a maximum of 2 years, and the best part - their food does grow on trees ( bushes).
 

goliathusdavid

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Stick insects are very strictly regulated in the US. You would need permits and, if I recall, likely a facility.
This is correct. A two door, heavily monitored containment facility is the minimum requirement for all phasmids. Only a few people are keeping these legally, and most are associated with institutions.
 
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