Liphistius cf fuscus - how to care ?

[Nick2450]

Hello!
Recently acquired Liphistius cf fuscus, juveniles. I put them in containers. The substrate is coconut, clay, sand.
It took 2 days, the spiders have not made a home for themselves. Hide between pieces of substrate and that's it. Nor do they eat (Drosophila hidei). Tell me what they lack? Humidity 60-70, temperature 75-80F

 

[BoyFromLA]

Before you place your spider into the enclosure, did you make any starting burrow for it?

 

[schmiggle]

Somewhere on here is a thread that describes that Liphistius need a lot of clay in their substrate. I'd skip the coconut and maybe cut back on the sand. I'll see if I can find the thread.

Edit: found it, here it is:

CB Liphistius ornatus - 2 year summary and videos

Beautiful spiders!

arachnoboards.com

It actually sounds like you can get away with coconut fiber, but I think you need a substrate that holds together really well. What you're describing sounds to me like it won't, but that depends on your ratios ofc.

 

[basin79]

I keep my 3 Liphistius sp on moss peat.

My Liphistius cf ornatus came as a tiny sling 2 years ago and I have a Liphistius yangae sling and a Liphistius sp Khao Luang sling.

Took my Khao Luang a while to settle but thankfully has eventually and just moulted for the first time. In the same time frame the yangae sling has moulted 4 times. I feed the slings on hatchling crickets.

The yangae feeding 2 days ago. Housed in a standard 3cm sling pot. And that's real time.

 

[Nick2450]

Before you place your spider into the enclosure, did you make any starting burrow for it?

Yes, sewing, to a depth of 1-1.5 inches. in the center of the container. One of the two spiders just sits on top of the substrate, the other climbed into the hole, and sits down. (they are in different containers). But not one does not try to make a house

 

[Nick2450]

Somewhere on here is a thread that describes that Liphistius need a lot of clay in their substrate. I'd skip the coconut and maybe cut back on the sand. I'll see if I can find the thread.

Edit: found it, here it is:

CB Liphistius ornatus - 2 year summary and videos

Beautiful spiders!

arachnoboards.com

It actually sounds like you can get away with coconut fiber, but I think you need a substrate that holds together really well. What you're describing sounds to me like it won't, but that depends on your ratios ofc.

clay about 10-15% in the substrate. sand 15-20%. the rest is coconut

 

[Nick2450]

I keep my 3 Liphistius sp on moss peat.

My Liphistius cf ornatus came as a tiny sling 2 years ago and I have a Liphistius yangae sling and a Liphistius sp Khao Luang sling.

Took my Khao Luang a while to settle but thankfully has eventually and just moulted for the first time. In the same time frame the yangae sling has moulted 4 times. I feed the slings on hatchling crickets.

The yangae feeding 2 days ago. Housed in a standard 3cm sling pot. And that's real time.

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My fuscus are also very tiny (0.2 inches in paw span). I worry that they are not building their shelters, but they will not hunt until there are no shelters? And before they came to me, they were fed almost 2 weeks ago. They ran pretty hard when I put them in containers, I expected them to build their houses in a day. And now a few days have passed, and they have not even started.

 

[basin79]

My fuscus are also very tiny (0.2 inches in paw span). I worry that they are not building their shelters, but they will not hunt until there are no shelters? And before they came to me, they were fed almost 2 weeks ago. They ran pretty hard when I put them in containers, I expected them to build their houses in a day. And now a few days have passed, and they have not even started.

If you already have I would offer a premade hole. My yangae used it, my Khao Luang didn't. That typed the Khao Luang ate a cricket whilst just on the surface the day after she arrived. If they haven't eaten for 2 weeks I'd definitely put a hatchling cricket in for them.

 

[Venom100]

My fuscus are also very tiny (0.2 inches in paw span). I worry that they are not building their shelters, but they will not hunt until there are no shelters? And before they came to me, they were fed almost 2 weeks ago. They ran pretty hard when I put them in containers, I expected them to build their houses in a day. And now a few days have passed, and they have not even started.

How’s the lighting in the space you have them. I had a similar issue with a Liphistius jarujini. When there was to much light in the room it didn’t make a burrow. Once I put it in a dark cabinet started burrowing. Sometimes just takes time for them to warm up to new environment.