Largest Avicularia species?

[Mavet]

Hey all, so I've fallen hard for my A. versicolor slings, to the point where I'm planning on picking up an Avic avic juvie and possibly some A. purpurea slings as well (cuz holy purple, Batman!), but I've been so intrigued by some of the other Avicularia species in the hobby - trouble is that sometimes different dealers have incomplete or conflicting information about them.

So I'm hoping I can get somewhat of a general consensus from you all - what are some of the larger Avics, and which of those are the Avicularia species that grow to be the largest?

(Some that my incomplete info has lead me to believe might be on this list are A. sp amazonica, A. braunhausi - I'm probably spelling that wrong - and another I've heard referred to as the 'goliath pink toe'. Confirm or deny?)

Thanks all!

 

[DocHoliday1989]

I think a. braunshauseni gets the largest but there some others that get pretty big like a.urticans

 

[PlaidJaguar]

A. braunshauseni is the one that's typically referred to as the Goliath.

A friend of mine has an A. metallica that's absolutely massive--she's currently 8" DLS. I'm not sure how big metallicas normally get, but I've never seen one anywhere near that size before.

 

[BrettG]

A.braunshauseni and A.metallica can get HUGE,we have had 7.5 inch DLS metallica in the past.

 

[Mako16]

Yeah A.braunshauseni for sure.

other big ones : A.sp.amazonica , A.juruensis , A. sp. peru pruple , and yes some A.metallica's can get really large, my friend also had a female around 6-7 ''

 

[Mavet]

Awesome. So if A.braunshauseni is generally the largest, what's the average expected size for a male/female? From what I've seen simply browsing the forums and image galleries, A. sp. amazonica and A.metallica seem somewhat similar (actually, so does A.braunshauseni, now that I think of it) in appearance, but please correct me if I'm missing something. So which of amazonica or metallica is the larger one, and between all three of the aforementioned species are there any behavioural differences/quirks inherent to each one? Any husbandry considerations that differ from that of A. versicolor (my only Avic experience so far)?

I'd love if anyone could post pics comparing these three species so I can more easily see any differences!

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Yeah A.braunshauseni for sure.

other big ones : A.sp.amazonica , A.juruensis , A. sp. peru pruple , and yes some A.metallica's can get really large, my friend also had a female around 6-7 ''

Is A. sp. Peru purple similar to A. purpurea at all in appearance? I don't think I've heard of that one before...

 

[Mako16]

So which of amazonica or metallica is the larger one.

A.sp.amazonica

here's the difference:

1. peru purple
2. amazonica

http://shrani.si/f/2N/Tq/2qPC4Lcs/amazonica-peru-purple.jpg

 

[macbaffo]

Thanks Mako!

 

[Mavet]

A.sp.amazonica

here's the difference:

1. peru purple
2. amazonica

http://shrani.si/f/2N/Tq/2qPC4Lcs/amazonica-peru-purple.jpg

Wow. That amazonica is a beauty! I love how the longer setae on the lower legs make it look like it's wearing leg-warmers! Thanks for the clarification.

 

[LordWaffle]

Yeah, amazonica is one beautiful spider.

 

[Keith B]

Supposedly A. braunshauseni reaches 7" easily and sometimes 8. Mine is still a sling so it'll be a while before I can offer how big mine gets. While there are similarities in appearance amongst the different species, each has it's unique qualities. A. braunshauseni is a deep blue, with light red setae on the front legs, with thick red setae from legs 3 and 4 and the pedicel back. The result is a smoother appearance of the front half of the spider, and a bushy rear appearance, making the rear legs appear thicker. The other Avics mentioned look more universally bushy across the whole T. A detailed look at each of the different Ts as adults will come with the realization that they are, in fact, easy to differentiate.

 

[fuzzyavics72]

Actually avic sp. amazconica is suppose to get 9 inches, that's what ive heard from a german and we know their the best in tarantulas and inverts. Plus he had a speciemen that was 8.5 inches. Also my avic jurensis female is about 8 inches and still very young. Braunshauseni isn't the biggest.

 

[viper69]

A. sp. amazonica and A.metallica seem somewhat similar (actually, so does A.braunshauseni, now that I think of it) in appearance......and between all three of the aforementioned species are there any behavioural differences/quirks inherent to each one? Any husbandry considerations that differ from that of A. versicolor (my only Avic experience so far)?

I'd love if anyone could post pics comparing these three species so I can more easily see any differences!

Of the many pictures I have seen of these 3 species over the years, none of them looked the same across species at all.

Metallica has a steel blue sheen/color across its body
sp Amazonica has a bright CHERRY RED abdominal setae, can't miss that, it's VERY distinctive
Braun. is exactly as Keith described above

They are VERY different looking.


I've read of a woman who owns sp Amazonica getting 9". So the Goliath Pink Toe common name of Baun, may no longer be appropriate hahah.

As for behavior I find my 2 Goliaths to be the most skittish of all the Avics I have ever owned, and the most picky in terms of eating, I really don't know how to describe the picky part (they both crickets). They are just a "sensitive" species that needs psychotherapy hahah. I keep ALL my Avics the same, no differences.

 

[LordWaffle]

Yeah, I wouldn't say they look similar at all. Aside from that lovely trademark
Avic fuzziness. Temperament I can't speak much to, the only Avic I have to date is urticans and it seems to be an "abnormal" one in terms of behavior.

 

[Keith B]

Yeah, I wouldn't say they look similar at all. Aside from that lovely trademark
Avic fuzziness. Temperament I can't speak much to, the only Avic I have to date is urticans and it seems to be an "abnormal" one in terms of behavior.

Lol second that. My urticans is easily my most active Avic, and will attack anything that touches it's webbing with lightning speed. Doesn't even run away from water when it realizes it's wet. Just attacks the drops then settles down to drink them. It's only about 1.25" now and it's tube web is already growing close to rivaling my 3" versicolors tube in length. Has a central tube with a network of walking/hunting hammocks connected from the exits. Quite cool. It spends a lot of time out in the open, and if I scare it, it runs in, and comes right back out 30 seconds later.

 

[Mavet]

Of the many pictures I have seen of these 3 species over the years, none of them looked the same across species at all.

Metallica has a steel blue sheen/color across its body
sp Amazonica has a bright CHERRY RED abdominal setae, can't miss that, it's VERY distinctive
Braun. is exactly as Keith described above

They are VERY different looking.


I've read of a woman who owns sp Amazonica getting 9". So the Goliath Pink Toe common name of Baun, may no longer be appropriate hahah.

As for behavior I find my 2 Goliaths to be the most skittish of all the Avics I have ever owned, and the most picky in terms of eating, I really don't know how to describe the picky part (they both crickets). They are just a "sensitive" species that needs psychotherapy hahah. I keep ALL my Avics the same, no differences.

Haha, I think maybe the pics I have seen were either of poor quality, or there were lighting discrepancies... How does the temperament of A. metallica and the Goliath pink-toes compare to Amazonica? Similarly skittish or more laid-back?

 

[viper69]

I don't own sp amazonica. Also, there is speculation that sp amazonica which originally came from Brazil and sent to Europe were crossed with another Avic species. Those hybrids, exported by Germans, were dumped into the USA hobby, mislabeled on purpose. It's on the board here. Whether that is true of these current animals being offered I don't know.

 

[BobGrill]

Metallicas are by far the most docile Avic in my experience.

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