L. hasselti fertile question

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I'm under the impression it's until she dies. Once mated that is her sole purpose for existence.
 

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That's interesting... I got her back in October and she made an egg sac this morning

I have no clue whether she was captive bred or wild caught

I'll separate the sac in case then... Thanks again !!
 

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I believe widows can retain sperm until they die or use it. At the very least, they can retain it for a long time. I had an unmated L. variolus that didn’t produce a sac until 5 months after I caught her. I thought for sure it was infertile.
 

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I believe widows can retain sperm until they die or use it. At the very least, they can retain it for a long time. I had an unmated L. variolus that didn’t produce a sac until 5 months after I caught her. I thought for sure it was infertile.
This is good to know... was the sac fertile in the end ?
 

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Would any of you happen to know how long a L. hasselti can stay fertile for after she mates ?

Thank you in advance ! :)
I've never kept L. hasselti - just L. hesperus and L. geometricus. With those, I've had females lay up to 7 or 8 fertile sacs over the course of a year or more after they were captured as adults. Over time, the number of slings from the sacs decreased - and I had a few infertile sacs at the end, though I don't know if that was because the females were finally running out of sperm, or just because they were getting old.
 

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I've never kept L. hasselti - just L. hesperus and L. geometricus. With those, I've had females lay up to 7 or 8 fertile sacs over the course of a year or more after they were captured as adults. Over time, the number of slings from the sacs decreased - and I had a few infertile sacs at the end, though I don't know if that was because the females were finally running out of sperm, or just because they were getting old.
This is all good information... didn't realize they could keep producing sacs for so long. I'll definitely relocate that sac incase. Thanks !! :)
 

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That's actually pretty amazing that they could do this !
We are looking on the frosting art on a masterpiece cake. The amazing part is that there is a cake there at all. Down through the eons, genera, families, even orders fell by the wayside and were lost. The few survivors we have today evolved in incredibly diverse unpredictable ways. From proximity of the sexes to each other, the mating processes, the gestation periods, the life cycles of the animals, the actual mating - either direct or through remote mechanisms or proxies. the live sperm retention, the number of viable offspring and how many would survive, disperse and thrive. An infinitely complex tapestry produced by a myriad of environments involved in giving us the basic ingredients that went into making the cake upon which we are presently admiring the frosting.]

(Meanwhile, over in Washington DC there are homo-erectus slightly removed arguing that evolution isn't real That is amazing astounding!)
 
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We are looking on the frosting art on a masterpiece cake. The amazing part is that there is a cake there at all. Down through the eons, genera, families, even orders fell by the wayside and were lost. The few survivors we have today evolved in incredibly diverse unpredictable ways. From proximity of the sexes to each other, the mating processes, the gestation periods, the life cycles of the animals, the actual mating - either direct or through remote mechanisms or proxies. the live sperm retention, the number of viable offspring and how many would survive, disperse and thrive. An infinitely complex tapestry produced by a myriad of environments involved in giving us the basic ingredients that went into making the cake upon which we are presently admiring the frosting.]

(Meanwhile, over in Washington DC there are homo-erectus slightly removed arguing that evolution is real That is amazing!)
This is very true... :)
 
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