Jumping Spider laid Eggs, need advice!

TibbInd

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Newer hobbyist and a wild caught Audax webbed a large sphere, closed it entirely then laid an egg sack.
Many photos I've seen online show a spider that is not nearly as skinny as Carla is, and she was pretty big before birth. I'm worried about her, I don't know if she has a hidden opening that I can't see and will eat. I read that she'll guard the eggs for around a month. I'm worried she won't make it.
I've been making sure to keep the humidity up and mist right up to the edge of the web, getting a drop or two on it hoping she'll sip it through. Should I stop doing this?
Apologies that this is a bit unorganized but I'm up way too late worrying haha
In the attached photos you can see how deflated her abdomen is, as well as a photo from just a few days before as well as in the process of laying the eggs. PXL_20240603_075951318.RAW-01.COVER.jpg
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Would love to end up with a happy mama and her very many babies
 

MorbidArachnid

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Females typically wont eat while they're sitting on their egg sacs, personally I think it's better to separate the egg sac right away and put it somewhere where you can let it hatch safely without worrying about the babies escaping. Then you can feed her and work on getting her back to normal. We use those 32oz vented delicups that you would typically see fruit flies for sale in, but you can use any container with a fine mesh or stocking or something tightly secured over the opening. crumpled piece of paper towel in there, and you can stick the egg sac to it pretty easily after you remove it. They wont need too much after that aside from the occasional spraying until they've hatched and separated out. Someone I know who has much more experience than me with raising jumping spiders told me that if you wait too long to take the egg sac it becomes much easier to tear open, but I've never personally verified this. There are also definitely people that argue that it's better to just leave the egg sac with the mom, but imo it doesn't change sling survivability rates and it's way more common for people to wait too long and end up with slings escaping into their house or have them scatter around the terrarium, which makes it a lot harder to collect them all later. But typically, the female can fast for the entire time she's guarding her egg sac so it's uncommon for them to starve during this time unless they were already underfed.
 

TibbInd

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Females typically wont eat while they're sitting on their egg sacs, personally I think it's better to separate the egg sac right away and put it somewhere where you can let it hatch safely without worrying about the babies escaping. Then you can feed her and work on getting her back to normal. We use those 32oz vented delicups that you would typically see fruit flies for sale in, but you can use any container with a fine mesh or stocking or something tightly secured over the opening. crumpled piece of paper towel in there, and you can stick the egg sac to it pretty easily after you remove it. They wont need too much after that aside from the occasional spraying until they've hatched and separated out. Someone I know who has much more experience than me with raising jumping spiders told me that if you wait too long to take the egg sac it becomes much easier to tear open, but I've never personally verified this. There are also definitely people that argue that it's better to just leave the egg sac with the mom, but imo it doesn't change sling survivability rates and it's way more common for people to wait too long and end up with slings escaping into their house or have them scatter around the terrarium, which makes it a lot harder to collect them all later. But typically, the female can fast for the entire time she's guarding her egg sac so it's uncommon for them to starve during this time unless they were already underfed.
Thank you so much for your response, it's eased my concerns a bit.
I don't think I am going to remove the eggsack from the cage because I've read some things about potential mental health issues when removing an eggsack (even saw some saying to freeze it and put it back so the spider can mourn the unhatched eggs in her own way)
My current plan is to put her whole cage inside of one of those butterfly mesh cages so if they do escape from the air holes (they are pretty small) then they'll just stay inside the butterfly mesh cage.
 

alienslimequeen

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I had to raise ~500 baby regals so feel free to reach out with questions when they hatch and emerge. I also left the sack with mom and used a butterfly cube. It made it so I could get them as they gradually came out (I would "harvest" the babies every night lol)

I think Peach would have taken it really hard if I had separated her. She did end up laying another sack in the same enclosure but I was able to get all of the first babies out before the second sack hatched. The other times I was able to remove her after the babies started to emerge. (she laid 5 sacks total)

Peach didn't eat for a couple weeks after laying her eggs. Once they hatched and started moving around there came a point where I could tell she was over them and that was when I would remove her. The first sack she never really got tired of though and so that time I would leave fly spikes in the enclosure since they cant hurt mom or babies. I would also dump some flightless fruit flies in the enclosure once the babies had left the nest.

Baby jumpers are fragile and in nature most don't survive. Sadly I found that no matter what I did I still experienced a lot of losses. The best luck I had was keeping them communally in groups of 20-30 until i3 and then I started to remove slings that were noticably bigger than their siblings. Then I kept them individually in deli cups. They will eventually cannibalize if you don't separate but separating too early also seems to have cons. I noticed that when they were very small they seemed to share meals and maybe even help each other hunt.

If bold jumpers are native to your area you can just release them. I couldn't with my regals and eventually found a breeder who saved my life and took all but 8 of them.
 

MorbidArachnid

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Thank you so much for your response, it's eased my concerns a bit.
I don't think I am going to remove the eggsack from the cage because I've read some things about potential mental health issues when removing an eggsack (even saw some saying to freeze it and put it back so the spider can mourn the unhatched eggs in her own way)
My current plan is to put her whole cage inside of one of those butterfly mesh cages so if they do escape from the air holes (they are pretty small) then they'll just stay inside the butterfly mesh cage.
That's a good idea, that'll definitely work out. Spiders don't mourn their egg sacs though, that's pure anthropomorphization.
 
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