Importing and Export?

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Does anyone know about the laws and permits needed to Export and Import insects and arachnids. And any inverts that are prohibited no matter what or counties that prohibit exporting inverts.

Im Just curious for the future.
 

Python

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Contact the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Law Enforcement Regional Issuing Office. In Wisconcin you are in region 3 which means you would have to contact them at

P.O. Box 45 - One Federal Drive
Fort Snelling, MN 55111-0045
(612)713-5356

They should be able to help you out.
 

Wade

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The the USFWS may be concerned with arachnids, but it's the USDA APHIS division who'll be concerned with insects. For all practical purpuses, they require permits (very difficult to get for a private person) for nearly everything.

Wade
 

Jacobo

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legal question

hi everybody.... i need the exact info to expot scorpions from colombia... actually i'm intereted in sell some scorpion , like tityus, centruroides, opisthacanthus and tarsoporosus, but... i don't know about the exportation laws... plz. somebody tell me something about it..

jacobo...
 

james

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You need to fill out the 526 form. Incoming insects are controlled by the United States Department of Agriculture APHIS division (Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service). I would also talk to your state agriculture department. When processing your permit they will talk to the state to get there recommendation. You also need this permit to ship within the U.S. Many people don't even realize that they require a permit to ship things as common as mealworms. The state told me they really don't care about the people receiving small amount of insect for feeders, but I have gotten no response from the feds. Freedom is only in the eye of the beholder!!!!!!
James
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Wade

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Jacobo is in Columbia, so firstly he's going to have to find out about the laws in his counrty and what permits would be required. If he's shipping them to the US, the reciever would likley also have to have permits, possibly from the USDA APHIS division (not sure they're concerned with scorpions), the USFWS (since they regulate more of the arachnid trade) and with the Customs dept. (since it would be a commercial transaction). Red tape galore. Might be easier if he's shuipping them to Europe, Asia, etc.

Wade
 

tarcan

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Jacobo,

I am under the impression that Colombia does not permits exportation of it's fauna, but I might be wrong... keep us posted...

I know some "farming" companies are authorized to export certain animals (like green iguanas I am told).

A lot of people seems to be under the impression that it is much harder to import inside the US... I do not believe so, LEGAL importation involved quite a bit of red tape no matter where you export to... you just need to find and deal with the people who know how to do it...

Good luck with your projects

Martin
 

Wade

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Red tape, yes, but it doesn't seem like most European countries have anything like the USDA to contend with (but Canada does, doesn't it?). Since the US has subtropicial regions, the USDA's fear of intoduced species becoming pests severly impacts, or virtually eliminates, the importation of insects of any kind. Arachnids are annother story, however, and they're mainly regulated by the USFWS which most countries have the equivelnt of.

The almost complete absence of Tityus sp. in the US hobby suggests that he's probably going to have a tough time, since there's certainly a demand for them and I'm sure they'd be already be here if there was a way to do it legally.

Wade
 

tarcan

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Wade said:
Red tape, yes, but it doesn't seem like most European countries have anything like the USDA to contend with (but Canada does, doesn't it?). Since the US has subtropicial regions, the USDA's fear of intoduced species becoming pests severly impacts, or virtually eliminates, the importation of insects of any kind. Arachnids are annother story, however, and they're mainly regulated by the USFWS which most countries have the equivelnt of.

The almost complete absence of Tityus sp. in the US hobby suggests that he's probably going to have a tough time, since there's certainly a demand for them and I'm sure they'd be already be here if there was a way to do it legally.

Wade
Wade, I agree what you mean as far as exotic insects goes, they seem to be a lot more loosely authorized in European countries then in North America...
In Canada, Agriculture Canada controls the importation of live exotic insects, it is virtually impossible to get permits for anything. But since the person was talking about scorpions, I do not see any problem on the importing side, I think he will have a lot more trouble exporting them illegally...

As for Tityus spp., I am not into scorpions... but they are not extremely common in the hobby in Europe as well I think... but the lack of them in the US could possibly be explained by that it seems most arachnid importers seem to specialize in theraphosids and do not appear to bother much with scorpions. I usually have access to a couple of species of that genus and I know I import from similar sources who supply the US hobby, I think it is just that we choose not to import them (well, I do not personnally deal in scorps).

All the best

Martin
 

Wade

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It seems like Tityus is at the top of the wish list for many US scorpion people, yet remains unavailable in the trade here while being much more readily available in Europe.

I think the Lacey Act comes into play. This legislation requires the USFWS to enforce regulations of other couintries even after the fact. The USFWS can sieze shipments of inverts, or even animals in private collections, that originate in closed countries even if the animals themselves are coming here via Europe. Unless it can be proven that the animals are captive bred, importing them might be a risky investment. It wasn't long ago that the USFWS was siezing captive born and raised B. smithi juviniles as "smuggled" simply because they refused to believe they could be bred in captivity!

Wade
 

Jacobo

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hi

hi... thanks for the help... i`m tryng to get the rules to export the scorpions, but isn't easy... looks like imposible .. but i still tryng...

thanks

jacobo..
 
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