I want something different..

[Quinquangular]

So, I'm looking at this website -- LLLReptile (any reviews and recommendations, is this site bad or good or decent?)
and I want to buy something different.


I plan on buying maybe a T and a scorpion, but I'm looking at frogs and such.
What should I get? The Halloween crab looks so cool, and I saw a video from jon3800 regarding how to take care of them.. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjbjbnHdp4A tell me if it's a bad caresheet), and I feel like I want something like this. Are they communal? If so, I want to buy like 2 and put them in an enclosure similar to the size that Jon3800 did, or I can put them in an XL Kritter Keeper for both to live together.

What frogs are easy to take care of and are cheap to buy?
Frogs are so interesting but I don't know what I want.

And any turtle recommendations?
My heart melts when I see baby turtles, but I think i read online saying like something under 3" or so is illegal to buy, so I'm confused.


Please send me any links, reviews and recommendations.
I want to know of this LLLReptile store is good or not!


Edit: Smoky Ghost Millipede. They are so cute! Can I keep them communally?
My gosh, so many things I want.

 

[cantthinkofone]

This sounds like impulse buy heaven... Take your time and decide carefully. Don't buy something because it's different, buy it for the love of the species. Turtle laws vary, millipedes are communal, and the crabs I don't know about.

 

[Quinquangular]

This sounds like impulse buy heaven... Take your time and decide carefully. Don't buy something because it's different, buy it for the love of the species. Turtle laws vary, millipedes are communal, and the crabs I don't know about.

Thanks for the info, that's why I asked for any suggestions
I'm really looking forward to getting a turtle or two.

Do you know if the site is good/bad/ugly/ok?

 

[skar]

I agree, plus it's only different for a small amount of time.
You are the only one who will care for it and find it interesting for more than 10 mins.
Find something you want and can manage for 3 to 20 years whatever it may be.

 

[pitbulllady]

All frogs are, to a certain degree, difficult to keep. They require specific temps and humidity and must be kept clean, and it's not always easy to find appropriately-sized prey items, especially for the little guys, unless you maintain your own fruit fly cultures. Frogs are not, for the most part, forgiving when it comes to fluctuating conditions in their enclosure. Toads are actually easier to keep, but most are burrowers, so if you're OK with a "pet hole", that shows up once in awhile to eat, mostly, I'd go with a toad. Whether not not you would be happy keeping either frogs or aquatic turtles depends on how much work you're willing to put into the endeavor. You can set up turtles with an aquarium filtration system, and again, cleanliness is of utmost importance, but do bear in mind that a lot of the turtle species commercially available, like the familiar Red-Ear Slider, do actually get quite large, and they live a long, long time if properly cared-for. I'd suggest looking into one of the small species, like a Stinkpot, and be sure to check with your local and state laws, since more and more turtle species are being banned due to them becoming scarce in the wild.

pitbulllady

pitbulllady

 

[Quinquangular]

All frogs are, to a certain degree, difficult to keep. They require specific temps and humidity and must be kept clean, and it's not always easy to find appropriately-sized prey items, especially for the little guys, unless you maintain your own fruit fly cultures. Frogs are not, for the most part, forgiving when it comes to fluctuating conditions in their enclosure. Toads are actually easier to keep, but most are burrowers, so if you're OK with a "pet hole", that shows up once in awhile to eat, mostly, I'd go with a toad. Whether not not you would be happy keeping either frogs or aquatic turtles depends on how much work you're willing to put into the endeavor. You can set up turtles with an aquarium filtration system, and again, cleanliness is of utmost importance, but do bear in mind that a lot of the turtle species commercially available, like the familiar Red-Ear Slider, do actually get quite large, and they live a long, long time if properly cared-for. I'd suggest looking into one of the small species, like a Stinkpot, and be sure to check with your local and state laws, since more and more turtle species are being banned due to them becoming scarce in the wild.

pitbulllady

pitbulllady

I do have a growing fruit fly culture and have many more materials to grow it in the future.
Thanks for the help and suggestions.

 

[Perentie]

please do your research before buying. Turtle babies are cute, but grow. They end up needing 10 gallons of water (standard tanks) per inch of shell length. For example an adult female red ear would need a 120gallon tank as a MINIMUM. Frogs are something that needs just the right environment, and if that is provided it will be fine. As for lll, I think they are OK, But I would suggtest shopping around first I have no personal experience, but I do know that they don't have the best prices. Just look around, pick an animal that you like, take your time and research, then find a seller.

 

[Quinquangular]

please do your research before buying. Turtle babies are cute, but grow. They end up needing 10 gallons of water (standard tanks) per inch of shell length. For example an adult female red ear would need a 120gallon tank as a MINIMUM. Frogs are something that needs just the right environment, and if that is provided it will be fine. As for lll, I think they are OK, But I would suggtest shopping around first I have no personal experience, but I do know that they don't have the best prices. Just look around, pick an animal that you like, take your time and research, then find a seller.

Thanks for the help.
I plan on buying a few scorpions, already have some experience and can do more research when I decide what I want.
I didn't know you needed that much water, I didn't see much of those details for basic care sheets, wow! :O

 

[cantthinkofone]

I've ordered from LLL before. They are generally good. Just please don't impulse buy.

 

[Quinquangular]

I've ordered from LLL before. They are generally good. Just please don't impulse buy.

Course I won't, if I were I wouldn't ask you guys for stuff

I'll look into some certain species of Ts and scorpions, and might look into millipedes.

 

[SeanSYW]

Halloween crabs are communal, but multiple males can create a problem (emphasis on might), especially if their sizes vary. They do eat basically anything, but need their meat (eg. chicken meat or superworms). They do need enough water to submerge themselves. They're pretty easy as far as land crabs go. Just in case you're still interested in getting some.

 

[viper69]

I would never ever buy from LLL. I've seen their animals and some are in good shape, and some are dehydrated and emaciated. I've seen this mix of health over the course of years. I won't support such a place.


For frogs, depends on what you get. A great beginner species is White's Tree Frog. It's an easy species to take care of, but do your RESEARCH on them! While they are very easy to keep, they are equally as easy to kill because they are amphibians. I've had several. I wouldn't buy them from LLL or any petstore. I'd buy them from a private breeder. There is also a Blue Phase morph (naturally occurring not hybrid).

Also on White's, there are those from Australia (that's what I raised) and those from New Guinea. The Australians are prettier and smaller. The ones from New Guinea are sometimes called Dumpy Frogs, they aren't as pretty IMO and they are larger. That's why I recommend a breeder because then you'll know what you are getting. LPS's typically use Dumpy for both variants.

This frog is an excellent eater, quite ravenous. HOWEVER, it will get obese, like a person. So don't overfeed it. It's easy to tell if one is overfed/obese too.

If you get one, hopefully you'll get lucky and yours will have white/butter yellow spots on it.

Turtles and tortoises are a lot of work IMO. Aquatics must have CLEAN water all the time, so you'll need a filtration system. Also, turtles and torts typically have very varied diets. It's NOT at all like throwing in crickets. Or just chopping up some veggies etc. If you want to get one of those types of animals, you need to do a TONS of research, asking questions etc. There are so MANY turtles and torts that suffer various health problems in captivity due to people not researching them enough, thinking they are easy. IMO, this class of exotic is far more difficult/complex to take care of than lizards, snakes, any frog (including darts) or Ts.

 

[Quinquangular]

I would never ever buy from LLL. I've seen their animals and some are in good shape, and some are dehydrated and emaciated. I've seen this mix of health over the course of years. I won't support such a place.


For frogs, depends on what you get. A great beginner species is White's Tree Frog. It's an easy species to take care of, but do your RESEARCH on them! While they are very easy to keep, they are equally as easy to kill because they are amphibians. I've had several. I wouldn't buy them from LLL or any petstore. I'd buy them from a private breeder. There is also a Blue Phase morph (naturally occurring not hybrid).

Also on White's, there are those from Australia (that's what I raised) and those from New Guinea. The Australians are prettier and smaller. The ones from New Guinea are sometimes called Dumpy Frogs, they aren't as pretty IMO and they are larger. That's why I recommend a breeder because then you'll know what you are getting. LPS's typically use Dumpy for both variants.

This frog is an excellent eater, quite ravenous. HOWEVER, it will get obese, like a person. So don't overfeed it. It's easy to tell if one is overfed/obese too.

If you get one, hopefully you'll get lucky and yours will have white/butter yellow spots on it.

Turtles and tortoises are a lot of work IMO. Aquatics must have CLEAN water all the time, so you'll need a filtration system. Also, turtles and torts typically have very varied diets. It's NOT at all like throwing in crickets. Or just chopping up some veggies etc. If you want to get one of those types of animals, you need to do a TONS of research, asking questions etc. There are so MANY turtles and torts that suffer various health problems in captivity due to people not researching them enough, thinking they are easy. IMO, this class of exotic is far more difficult/complex to take care of than lizards, snakes, any frog (including darts) or Ts.

Thank you viper, all the information I need.
Looks like turtles are out for now!

I'll look into that tree frog.
And I'll look into the classifieds.

I plan on starting a b. latteralis colony since I love those roaches -- better than dubias imo.
Already have a fruit fly colony and meal worm colony.