I think I am done with Avics for awhile.

ragnarokxg

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Well I had posted last week that I thought something was off with my A. urticans well I fed it on Friday night like I do all my T's and when I went to check on it Sunday morning it was dead. The cricket had been eaten but my little guy was in a death curl. Now all my other T's are fine it is just the one avic that died. Not sure why or how so other than my two slings I think I will be staying away from them in the future at least for a while.

So while I am here are there any other Arboreals that are cool to keep. I do have two GBB's who are sticking with the semi-arboreal schtick but as for the. But I would like a juvie of something else to replace the empty spot in my collection. I was looking at a L. violaceopes but after a search have not found anything about their temperment. I am not ready for anything too defensive so any suggestions are welcome.
 

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Only avics are "calm" arboreals, others are pretty much all devilish.
 

poisoned

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Well, maybe it's time to step up? Get yourself Tapinauchenius spp., they are very fast, but skittish.
 

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How well ventilated are your avics? Ventilation is much more important than anything else with avics, it's easy to to suffocate them when trying to maintain a higher humidity. If your looking for some nice hardy arboreals have you thought about pokies? Especially P. regalis, they can be kept communally, I separated mine when they get to around 3-3 1/2 inches and 4 of them I sold and kept one. I now have another community of five, watching them hunt together is very entertaining, five pokies ripping apart one meal worm sounds barbaric but it's death is quicker than usual. I hope I have been some kind of help
 

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Well I had posted last week that I thought something was off with my A. urticans well I fed it on Friday night like I do all my T's and when I went to check on it Sunday morning it was dead. The cricket had been eaten but my little guy was in a death curl. Now all my other T's are fine it is just the one avic that died. Not sure why or how so other than my two slings I think I will be staying away from them in the future at least for a while.

So while I am here are there any other Arboreals that are cool to keep. I do have two GBB's who are sticking with the semi-arboreal schtick but as for the. But I would like a juvie of something else to replace the empty spot in my collection. I was looking at a L. violaceopes but after a search have not found anything about their temperment. I am not ready for anything too defensive so any suggestions are welcome.
Watch the YouTube video called (I think) singapore blue shows attitude by tarantulaguy76! His L. Violaceopes is a great example of their temperament lol! They are awesome to have though! I would recommend p. irminia as they are very beautiful arboreals. I have heard they burrow as juvies.
 

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Yes, P. irminia burrow when they're young. I have a little one at 1.25" who just loves to make intricate tunnels of web and substrate. As they get older they will start to move up in their enclosures, but they will also start getting some attitude as well. I personally love the little guy and am looking into getting others from the same genus (P. cambridgei, P. pulcher, etc.).

Mr Ed, that is frightening, but also very interesting. I help take care of a P. pederseni in the insectary at my university and I have seen first hand just how hardy pokies are. I ended up getting the job there because no one had been taking care of her for over a month, but she was still alive and kicking. Beautiful spider, but I'm not sure if I will be getting any of those in the future (except possibly a P. rufilata because that one is so nice looking, but that's a few years down the road when I have my own place).
 

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The trick with Avics is only putting air holes on the side 4 in a line from just under the lid down to the sub, do the same on the opposite side and inbetween them on both sides so when your looking down on the cup the holes make a +. Also make larger then normal holes not to much bigger but you get the idea. Never put holes on the top you will lose humidity to fast, and you have to keep them warm and the sub moist. Thats what i do with my avics and no deaths.
 

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I'm sorry but I don't understand why people lose one avic and then suddenly are hating on them. Have you lost other avics in the past? If not I wouldn't give up on them after one loss (which I'm sorry about btw! =(

As to other arboreals, you won't find any as calm as avics are. I recommend P.regalis actually, even though they're super fast and skittish they often run away and hide. Irminia is also awesome, they will either live in burrows or aboreally. However they're more often 'fight rather than flight' compared to regalis
 

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Does not surprise me that you have some purely arboreal P. irminia slings; they just seem to do whatever they want. It's still a nice spider to have whether it's burrowing or hanging out up in its web. I'm definitely a happy owner :)
 

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I have a Tappy, T. plumipes. And while its fast as a bullet....its not even remotely aggressive. Not even defensive. I would go so far as to call it handleable except for the fact that its faster than anything you've ever seen. Faster than a Poeci. Faster than a Psalmo. I unpacked mine and it wound up on my back. That was a fun day.

But, I did handle it for a while before managing to get it housed, and it was nothing but curious and sweet. If you can deal with the speed, I'd say the Taps are probably the only arboreal that come remotely close to the Avic's sunny disposition. Also T. ockerti have recently been classified as arboreal...I keep mine semi arboreal, as there's still a bit of controversy on them, but its also got a fairly good temperament.

Also, Psalmos aren't all demon children. They deserve respect, but they're still new world spiders, can't do any serious damage to you. I've got a good handful of various Psalmos, and although I wouldn't just take them out and play with them, they've always been pretty easy to work with/around. If you don't feel you're ready for something like that though, I'd stay away from Poecis. Although they're typically nonaggressive, well, they're still Poecis and they pack a punch if you're unlucky enough to take a bite.
 

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How well ventilated are your avics? Ventilation is much more important than anything else with avics, it's easy to to suffocate them when trying to maintain a higher humidity. If your looking for some nice hardy arboreals have you thought about pokies? Especially P. regalis, they can be kept communally, I separated mine when they get to around 3-3 1/2 inches and 4 of them I sold and kept one. I now have another community of five, watching them hunt together is very entertaining, five pokies ripping apart one meal worm sounds barbaric but it's death is quicker than usual. I hope I have been some kind of help
Actually its tank was very well ventilated. I use this http://tarantulahomes.com/ver_medium.php terrarium for it and it had a nice setup. This was its second moult since I had her and it just sucks that she died.

I'm sorry but I don't understand why people lose one avic and then suddenly are hating on them. Have you lost other avics in the past? If not I wouldn't give up on them after one loss (which I'm sorry about btw! =(

As to other arboreals, you won't find any as calm as avics are. I recommend P.regalis actually, even though they're super fast and skittish they often run away and hide. Irminia is also awesome, they will either live in burrows or aboreally. However they're more often 'fight rather than flight' compared to regalis
This is the third Avic I lost in less than a year, and I have two slings which are doing very well. It is just frustrating when I lose these guys and my other T's are all thriving.
 

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I'm somewhat of a newb to T's and I just got a p irminia. I just fell in love with how beautiful they are. Mine comes out to eat but other then that, I don't see it much. I was hesitant to get one b/c I am new to T's but I gotta start somewhere.
 

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Well I had posted last week that I thought something was off with my A. urticans well I fed it on Friday night like I do all my T's and when I went to check on it Sunday morning it was dead. The cricket had been eaten but my little guy was in a death curl. Now all my other T's are fine it is just the one avic that died. Not sure why or how so other than my two slings I think I will be staying away from them in the future at least for a while.

So while I am here are there any other Arboreals that are cool to keep. I do have two GBB's who are sticking with the semi-arboreal schtick but as for the. But I would like a juvie of something else to replace the empty spot in my collection. I was looking at a L. violaceopes but after a search have not found anything about their temperment. I am not ready for anything too defensive so any suggestions are welcome.
I quit avic's when My versicolor T had a wet molt. It thrived for a whole year then dead in a instant I loved that little Spider.
will buy more when I get a job, only A versi & A urticans

I stick to pokies they are much more impressive & trump any Avic IMO.
Pokies & psalmous, Malaysian earthtiger is hardy also.
Pokies also are much hardier
Avic versicolor is cool , but P ornata is twice its size.
 

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I quit avic's when My versicolor T had a wet molt. It thrived for a whole year then dead in a instant I loved that little Spider.
will buy more when I get a job, only A versi & A urticans
I don't understand what you're doing with your spiders, it seems like they all die of "DKS" or wet molts.
 

CEC

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Most I know have problems with a certain species not Genus.
IMO Just bad luck if not something your doing wrong.
Ya win some, ya lose some! Happens to all of us, something you just have to accept if you want to own a T, especially multiple Ts.
Sorry for your loss, I have not lost a juvie or adult Avic but I have lost a few 2i but that is common with all Ts, I believe.
Good luck with your other and future Ts!
 

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P. cambridgei are gorgeous and my guy is about 3.5 - 4" and still mainly burrows throughout the day and comes out to explore at night. Thinking he was arboreal that's the set up i have for him but he likes his tunnel the best. My little p.pulcher slings are always at the top of the container and can be found only once and a while at the bottom of their containers. All a little nervous but beautiful creatures to have.
 
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