housing T's and Scorps together

kellysaxez · Mar 18, 2016

I do not plan on actually trying this out, I care too much about the loss or injury of either, however, I was wondering if anyone had ever considered, or done, successfully or no, housing an arboreal T such as an A. versicolor or pokie in the same tank as an H. spinifer?

If the tank itself would allow for both the burrowing needs of the scorp and the tree top lifestyle of the arboreal T, and the temp and humidity requirements were the same, does anyone think it is feasible, or would it end in disaster for either? Thanks in advance,

Kelly

Poec54 · Mar 18, 2016

They eat each other in the wild. It's like keeping cats and mice in a cage together. If you're short of cash, we can chip in and help you buy an extra cage.

Venom1080 · Mar 18, 2016

it might work for a short while but in the end one would die. would never work IMO.

TownesVanZandt · Mar 18, 2016

This sounds like a recipe for disaster!

gypsy cola · Mar 18, 2016

It would be pretty cool but also incredibly impractical if you made a "hot cage" and kept the T in the outer enclosure. A scorpion enclosure in the inner enclosure.

Czech prime · Mar 18, 2016

A divided enclosure could work but it isn't worth all the hassle imo
something like this

Poec54 · Mar 18, 2016

Tuffz said:
A divided enclosure could work but it isn't worth all the hassle imo
something like this

Many tarantulas have been killed by their neighbor in divided cages, as both the dividers and lids have to fit tight and secure. Most people miss the part about the lid being snug and unmovable against the top of the divider.

Czech prime · Mar 18, 2016

Poec54 said:
Many tarantulas have been killed by their neighbor in divided cages, as both the dividers and lids have to fit tight and secure. Most people miss the part about the lid being snug and unmovable against the top of the divider.

that and it's just too much of a hassle, especially if the enclosures are oppened with the same lid or one of them is oppened from the inside of the other. Could easily see a fast arboreal running in the scorpion enclosure

viper69 · Mar 18, 2016

kellysaxez said:
does anyone think it is feasible, or would it end in disaster for either? Thanks in advance,

It's NOT feasible! This question gets asked a lot. Everyone who asks this question seems to forget one thing IMO, in the wild, when a critter is attacked they have the opportunity to run away, in a container they don't really have that ability.

For the same reason it's better to feed your snake pre-killed rodents than dumping in a live one. The snake can't get away, and if bitten could get infection/s, or what is known is "food-shy". My friend's boa had this happen and the boa stopped eating period. He had to force feed it, not pleasant for the owner or the snake.

This would be a truly dumb thing for anyone to do if they cared about animals, and that person should go into dog-fighting as their next hobby and leave this one ASAP.

Poec54 · Mar 18, 2016

viper69 said:
This question gets asked a lot.

I don't understand why 'this question gets asked a lot.' I've never thought of it in the 40+ years I've been keeping tarantulas. if you put two mortal enemies in the same cage 24/7, you'll end up with either one, or none.

viper69 · Mar 18, 2016

Poec54 said:
I don't understand why 'this question gets asked a lot.' I've never thought of it in the 40+ years I've been keeping tarantulas. if you put two mortal enemies in the same cage 24/7, you'll end up with either one, or none.

I've never thought of doing it either. I don't know why it's asked either, but I've seen it frequently here.

louise f · Mar 18, 2016

Never done it and never will, you might as well put a human and a lion together. That will never work either.

BorisTheSpider · Mar 19, 2016

Head on over to YouTube and watch all "this versus that" videos if you want to see different species showing what millions of years of evolution has taught them . They don't have the ability to understand that they are part of a cool enclosure experiment . They are survival embodied and have no problem killing anything that threatens them . To paraphrase Matt Hooper (Jaws , 1975) . . . . .

" Ts are perfect engines ... All they do is eat , crawl and make little Ts ."

cold blood · Mar 19, 2016

louise f said:
Never done it and never will, you might as well put a human and a lion together. That will never work either.

Oh no??

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...n_human.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150216011005

And this is actress Melanie Griffith as a child, in bed with her pet lion....seriously....if you ever notice the scar she has on her face, its from playing with the lion as a child.

http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/conten...t/image.img.2000.jpg/1428933396126.cached.jpg

BorisTheSpider · Mar 19, 2016

cold blood said:
Oh no??

My vote for funniest post in weeks !!

gottarantulas · Mar 19, 2016

A recipe that won't pan out.

AphonopelmaTX · Mar 19, 2016

I understand the logic in this question. Arboreal tarantula lives off the ground and scorpion lives on the ground (or in it) in nature, so provide an enclosure big enough to accommodate both animal's habits in captivity and it should work because your mimicking nature. Sounds good in theory but it will never work primarily because you will never reasonably be able to have an enclosure big enough to where both animals will be unaware of each other. You are talking about two very large arthropod predators which use are very sensitive to vibration and use it as a primary way to map its environment and to detect prey and threats. In captivity, the confined space of a plastic or glass enclosure means the tarantula and scorpion will always be aware of each other. Vibrations caused by both animals will travel throughout the entire enclosure and be picked up on by both. If either one doesn't go after the other, then you will most likely have two animals that are constantly stressed from knowing there is another large animal in with it. That's a ticking time bomb situation. Besides, there is something very unsettling about putting two animals together in the same cage that would never encounter each other in the wild.

louise f · Mar 19, 2016

cold blood said:
Oh no??

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...n_human.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150216011005

And this is actress Melanie Griffith as a child, in bed with her pet lion....seriously....if you ever notice the scar she has on her face, its from playing with the lion as a child.

http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/conten...t/image.img.2000.jpg/1428933396126.cached.jpg

Hehe i see that,

you never knows when it will strike you like lightning

Formerphobe · Mar 19, 2016

louise f said:
Hehe i see that, you never knows when it will strike you like lightning

And there have been plenty of people on the receiving end of that lightening strike...

EulersK · Mar 19, 2016

cold blood said:
Oh no??

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...n_human.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150216011005

And this is actress Melanie Griffith as a child, in bed with her pet lion....seriously....if you ever notice the scar she has on her face, its from playing with the lion as a child.

http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/conten...t/image.img.2000.jpg/1428933396126.cached.jpg

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