Hey whats this? ' ' . . ' '

[buthus]

Collected a nice group of these this last weekend. Made me happy! ...;P

 

[froggyman]

looks kinda like a recluse

 

[Frédérick]

it looks like, but i don't think it is...:?

 

[Venom]

Nice find!

It's a recluse...just not L.reclusa. Could be L. blanda?

Is it biting you in pic #4?

 

[Widowman10]

looks a LOT like Loxosceles to me. maybe not reclusa, like venom said, but the eye pattern and body shape/size screams loxo.

 

[buthus]

It's a recluse...just not L.reclusa. Could be L. blanda?

Is it biting you in pic #4?

SICARIIDAE checklist San Diego Co.
source: http://www.sdnhm.org/research/entomology/sdspider.html

Loxosceles deserta
Loxosceles palma

Nope not biting me. It got "frustrated" being manipulated for so long for the sake of photography. It suddenly stopped running and started grooming and even laying down a couple fine strands of webbing. Pic #4 ...it was actually cleaning its spinnerets ...sorta creeped me out cause it also started checking out the "ground" it was being forced to wander around on.

Not easy collecting these. They can squeeze into nothing and are incredibly sensitive to light. I spotted many quick flashes of retreating legs as I scanned with my spot. A LED light thats way less powerful and more towards UV seemed to work better, but they blend in to the environment so well, less light means you dont see the darn spiders.

 

[tin man]

I don't know what it is, but if its relatred to recluse I wouldn't hold it if I were you.

 

[buthus]

I don't know what it is, but if its relatred to recluse I wouldn't hold it if I were you.

Monsterrrrrs! like on Halloween! :evil: .. ...:clap:

 

[buthus]

Leg formulas of US species:*

Loxosceles apachea fem 4213 male 2413
Loxosceles arizonica fem 4213 male 2413
Loxosceles blanda fem 4213 male 2413
Loxosceles deserta 2413 (both sexes)
Loxosceles devia fem 2413 male 2143
Loxosceles kaiba fem 2413 male 2143
Loxosceles laeta 4213 (both sexes)
Loxosceles martha 4213 (both sexes)
Loxosceles palma 2413 (both sexes)
Loxosceles reclusa fem 2413 male 2143
Loxosceles rufescens fem 2413 male (?)
Loxosceles russelli fem 4213 male 2413
Loxosceles sabina fem 4213 male (has not been described)

*Recluse Spiders and The Hobo Spider – In North America Dr. Robert Gale Breene III

Ah-ha! thats convenient! The most probable ID possibilities so happen to have different leg formulas.
One died ...might be a mature female, Ill have to look ...either that and/or try and take a good calm and spread eagle shot of the biggest one with girlie palps. Cause..it looks like measuring males wont answer squat.

 

[cacoseraph]

DUDE!

did you find Lox!?

that is freaking rad! i sort of remeber you were goign to go hunting with one of the new scabies or something?


totally has the eye pattern of Sicariidae! that is awesome!

one down... ten to go? heh

congrats


edit:

lol. i just got your title. nice. that is probably the slickest ascii art i have seen for the eye pattern

 

[buthus]

Leg formulas of US species:*

*Recluse Spiders and The Hobo Spider – In North America Dr. Robert Gale Breene III

Ah-ha! thats convenient! The most probable ID possibilities so happen to have different leg formulas.
One died ...might be a mature female, Ill have to look ...either that and/or try and take a good calm and spread eagle shot of the biggest one with girlie palps. Cause..it looks like measuring males wont answer squat.

Darnit.. I had L.blanda stuck in me head from Venom's post (dammit Venom! ) ...and this ID method would have worked (probably) if that was the possible comparison. But, L.palma and deserta have the same leg formula. A microscope sex organ gander..probably the only way now. :?

DUDE!

did you find Lox!?

that is freaking rad! i sort of remeber you were goign to go hunting with one of the new scabies or something?


totally has the eye pattern of Sicariidae! that is awesome!

one down... ten to go? heh

Looks like a pale version of a brown reclusa ..but thats about all the difference. The violin is faded too.

one down ..looks like 11 to go? But I want some of those S.American species too. ...and the ones in S.Africa are way different color/paternwise. I want some of those too!

I bet this is L.deserta. We'll have to head down near Baja to collect L.palma.


BTW.. "full report" now posted on the scabies board.

 

[cacoseraph]

very cool. i forgot you went out there. my brother went on a trip and saw some cool stuff. some big white bird of prey (falcon/hawk shape not owl shape) i think

 

[8+)]

lol. i just got your title. nice. that is probably the slickest ascii art i have seen for the eye pattern

HaHa, oh yeah, that's sweet!!!



Did you find any of these grouped together?

 

[David_F]

BTW.. "full report" now posted on the scabies board.

Can we get a full report of this spider here, please?

 

[buthus]

Can we get a full report of this spider here, please?

Haha.. well more of a "field report" sorta deal... so Ill do a cut n' paste ...
ok... here

Did you find any of these grouped together?

Spotted many in pairs. They seemed to hold their turf ...maybe a ft or so between each pair, but it would take some more observation to confirm that because the crevices are not easy to look into very deep ..talking est. 1/8 -3/8'' space.
BTW... spotted many with missing legs. Couple of the ones I collected have missing legs also. Hard living with comb-foots and other known spider snaggers.