Heterothele gabonensis care

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I just ordered a H. Gabonensis, but there is not a lot of info regarding humidity on the internet. From the research i did i found they like it quite dry.
I would love to hear from someone who owns one. Thx
 

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Same care as H villosella as their habitats overlap. Some people have claimed their arboreal, but mine stays burrowed all the time. Mostly dry with an overflowed water dish every now and then. Webs a lot. Gorgeous but I never see it
 

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Mine prefers more moist substrate I let it almost completely dry out once and they started acting odd and burrowed down as far as they could so I put more water in their substrate and they came out and drank some of the droplets, they’re about an inch right now, they were about 3/4” when that happened
 

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Thanks for the answers! They are really stunning T's. I ordered 7 different species and i cant wait for them to arrive. H. Gabonensis is one of the most exciting. I just love african fossorials
 

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Not necessarily a true fossorial as it doesn't dig a deep hole in the ground, but will build a vast web tunnel network that will stretch along the ground and up into whatever structure you provide it.

Mine is in a large enclosure and it always chooses the moist side to build its burrow. Hates it dry.

I have never seen mine except for the day I got it and the last time I rehoused it. Extremely reclusive even at night I never seen it leave it's web network.
 

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Mine are kept dry with a water dish. They build webbing in the whole enclosure and sit suspended in the webbing like sitting in a hammock.
 

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I kept mine dry with a water dish in a semi-arboreal setup. A couple inches of substrate and plenty of anchor points.
 

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I didn't know they were such heavy webbers. I will give it plenty of anchor points. In regards to humidity i will try both moist and dry and see what works best. When it arrives it will be a 0.5cm sling so it will have moist substrate anyway.
 

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I just ordered a H. Gabonensis, but there is not a lot of info regarding humidity on the internet. From the research i did i found they like it quite dry.
I would love to hear from someone who owns one. Thx
One of the fastest OWs be very mindful of this!

My AF uses a hide.

I suggest you read, if you haven’t, the only known field report by a former AB member posted many years ago on the net.

The information will definitely be eye opening.
 

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One of the fastest OWs be very mindful of this!

My AF uses a hide.

I suggest you read, if you haven’t, the only known field report by a former AB member posted many years ago on the net.

The information will definitely be eye opening.
I have read what i could find about them but there isnt a lot of info. They are quite an unpopular species
 

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When these folks say this species is a prolific webber, they mean it. My juvie has an arboreal set up with about 2 inches of sub, sticks pushed to the bottom to simulate root systems and plenty of leaves, both fake and real litter.
This spider makes tunnels of everything, every single thing, and webs thick, thick silk to the very top. She Likes the moist side sometimes and I've actually caught her straddling the water dish, which I have to dig out of webbing to refill. On next rehouse I will probably hot glue dish closer to the top but tbh I think he or she will still web it up. When I remove lid, webbing always comes along with it. Keeps small burrow in sub right at the back which I think seems to be more of a "garbage can." A bolus deposit which I cannot reach without destroying the whole system.
Hangs out a lot in a thousand different hammocks of webbing, and is rumored to posesss H Mac level venom. A hospital trip from a bite would definitely be the option.
But, as someone already stated, not aggressive or defensive. Always runs to hide when I open the enclosure, and I have no doubt will be a bolting machine when I rehouse. It's coming soon and I'm quite sure to be a shaking mess when it has to happen. Definitely a chilly rush for me to interact with this species. I love it. Better than skydiving, because I don't ever know exactly if she will choose to run up my arm or not. Doubtful, yes. But the opportunity is there. This one is bang up fast enough to do it and be gone before you know it. Exercise caution. Treat it like you would a pokie or Togo, and should be ok. Oh...and keep any other household pets and children out of the room if you're working with this one. Must assume venom could be deadly for a cat, dog or child. Fast AF! Can't stress it enough. No escape so far. Very possible though.
 
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do a heavy moisture gradient in the substrate and allow the upper most layer of the substrate to dry out every other day in between mistings - got to find the balance between dry and high humidity
 

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but there is not a lot of info regarding humidity on the internet.
tarantulas do not require humidity....some need damp sub, but the moisture in the air doesn't really matter. Anything suggesting special humidity requirements for any t should be immediately disregarded.
 

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tarantulas do not require humidity....some need damp sub, but the moisture in the air doesn't really matter. Anything suggesting special humidity requirements for any t should be immediately disregarded.
nothing says ‘thriving terrarium’ like turning it into a desiccation chamber
 

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I suggested NOTHING of the sort.

clearly you missed where I wrote "damp sub".

You clearly love taking what I write out of context.
i did nothing of the sort my friend - i have zero reason to invent things and you were quite explicit in your argument saying, and i quote “tarantulas do not require humidity” to which you then further expanded upon that with “anything suggesting special humidity requirements for any t should be immediately disregarded” - the only caveat being that some species require damp substrate, indeed

i fail to see from that how i am taking anything out of context - there are multiple scientific studies which show a relationship between arachnid web production and humidity levels and how the latter can effect the former - seeing as Gabonese Blues are a heavy webbing species it would seem that at the v least maintaining a humidity range comparative to that of their natural locale would be beneficial to that end

i also would say that it seems weird to say that African tarantulas are the only animals in the whole of Africa that don’t require a relative humidity range of 45-80% depending on their natural locale and lifeways

https://www.jstor.org/stable/26488506
 

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you did exactly that....you attributed what I wrote to suggesting a desiccation chamber...which is flat out ridiculous.
i made a conclusion you disagree with based upon the logic within your original argument - that’s not taking what you said out of context

further, if you throw out humidity from terraculture you will indeed create a “desiccation chamber” as the humidity range within the enclosure will plummet

it’s common sense in my opinion when we’re talking about a glass box, usually filled with coconut husks and sharvings and/or top soil (which can dry out equally as bad), that’s usually stored in rooms that remain at a constant temp range of 75-85F - of course this would happen and i don’t think overfilling the water dish once in a blue moon is adequate compensation for this
 

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further, if you throw out humidity from terraculture you will indeed create a “desiccation chamber” as the humidity range within the enclosure will plummet
Hmmm, in 25 years of keeping, it has yet to happen...how long will I need to wait?

Tarantulas do not need humidity, the moisture in the air doesn't matter a lick. I will explain again, for like the 25th time. The reason some ts need damp sub is for the operation of the book lungs, which as we all know are located under the tarantula.....so they get exactly what they need from soil moisture (hence the burrowing), and the air on their backs, where there are no book lungs, is indeed completely irrelevant.
it’s common sense in my opinion when we’re talking about a glass box, usually filled with coconut husks and sharvings and/or top soil (which can dry out equally as bad), that’s usually stored in rooms that remain at a constant temp range of 75-85F - of course this would happen and i don’t think overfilling the water dish once in a blue moon is adequate compensation for this
See, now you have to make up all kinds of assumptions to prove your point......once in a blue moon, my goodness, do you read this stuff before you click post?

i also would say that it seems weird to say that African tarantulas are the only animals in the whole of Africa that don’t require a relative humidity range of 45-80% depending on their natural locale and lifeways
See, you even use absurdities to attempt to prove your point. If every animal in the whole of Africa needed humidity, there would be no surface life in the dry places. Those animals need a water source, not humidity. Are you trying to claim gazelle, lions, hyenas,humans, flies, etc., etc, have humidity requirements...cause they don't....the very notion is absurd and ignores life in deserts and super dry climates where life still flourishes.
Mine are kept dry with a water dish. They build webbing in the whole enclosure and sit suspended in the webbing like sitting in a hammock.
And here is why its obvious you simply like going after me whenever you "think" you can. Here we have a long time keeper and successful breeder, who says he keeps his dry with a water dish and we don't get a peep out of you refuting his claims, which are basically the same claims I make.
 
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Hmmm, in 25 years of keeping, it has yet to happen...how long will I need to wait?
if you want to keep wild animals in unnatural conditions to confirm your ego and laziness in keeping that’s on you - you’re free to use whatever unsubstantiated rationalizations you please as we have so seen below

Tarantulas do not need humidity, the moisture in the air doesn't matter a lick. I will explain again, for like the 25th time. The reason some ts need damp sub is for the operation of the book lungs, which as we all know are located under the tarantula.....so they get exactly what they need from soil moisture (hence the burrowing), and the air on their backs, where there are no book lungs, is indeed completely irrelevant.
keeping T’s in conditions which are literally drier than the Sahara for no other reason than laziness and bs rationalizations is absurd - even in the Sahara the relative humidity range is still 25-45% and this is arguably 1 of the most arid places on the whole continent

See, now you have to make up all kinds of assumptions to prove your point......once in a blue moon, my goodness, do you read this stuff before you click post?
how exactly am i making things up? are you suggesting this doesn’t accurately describe the way most T’s are kept?

See, you even use absurdities to attempt to prove your point. If every animal in the whole of Africa needed humidity, there would be no surface life in the dry places. Those animals need a water source, not humidity. Are you trying to claim gazelle, lions, hyenas,humans, flies, etc., etc, have humidity requirements...cause they don't....the very notion is absurd and ignores life in deserts and super dry climates where life still flourishes.
yes, and those desert animals generally have special adaptations to deal with said arid conditions eg: P. anchietae has beaded scales to maximize moisture absorption and retention - are you seriously telling me there would be nothing wrong with shoving an adult male lion into a glass box which has been made artificially dry to the point where it’s drier than most deserts that there would be no adverse health effects from those living conditions? really?

And here is why its obvious you simply like going after me whenever you "think" you can. Here we have a long time keeper and successful breeder, who says he keeps his dry with a water dish and we don't get a peep out of you refuting his claims, which are basically the same claims I make.
saying “I’ve done it X way and my animal didn’t immediately” is not an actual argument and doesn’t mean anything to me - curious as to why you think it would - if you would like to substantiate your argument with peer-reviewed scientific studies i’ll gladly read them[/quote]
 
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