lizardminion
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I swear, it's hard to find an active forum on this subject. ![Frown :( :(](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
I do support hybrid herps (by hybrid herps, I really mean hybrid snakes as that's really the only kind of hybrid herptile out there, though there is a few exceptions) however, I'm also half with the other crowd who don't. I like hybrids, but I don't support 'muddy genetics' and when the genetics get messy. (e.x. 25% corn snake, 54% cal king, 16% milk snake, etc...)
I agree with the fact that we should keep some snakes pure, but I also don't mind the section with hybrids, who, if anything, should only breed with other hybrids of the same or similar type. I support mainly obvious hybrids, between two species and (as with other hybrid lovers) show a clear distinction between both parents. I don't support inter-subspecies hybrids so much.
Now that said...
I know of many hybrids including both Colubrids and Pythons, and I know a few Boa hybrids, although those aren't too common in the first place.
Probably the most well known hybrid are Jungle Corn Snakes, also known as KingCorns. (cal kingsnake x corn snake) Then there's also Carpall Pythons, another well known hybrid between a Jungle carpet and a Ball Python. And, a favorite of mine, the Wall Python. (woma x ball python)
What I've rarely heard of though, are Bull Snake hybrids. However, I do recall seeing a thread on kingsnake about a bull snake hybridized with a corn snake. Sadly, it looked a lot like a slightly larger corn snake with a slightly off pattern. It would obviously be mistaken for a Corn Snake- not a good thing for those who both support and don't support hybrids. There was also a thread about a naturally occurring hybrid between the bull snake and the california kingsnake. Much like the bull-corn, it looked like a slightly larger cal-kingsnake, although the pattern was a little more distinguishable than that of the bull-corn.
What I'm beginning to think, is that the Bullsnake genes are rather more "recessive" than the genes of other snakes. I'm wondering though, is that if there is a more, hybrid-friendly match for the bullsnake, which will create offspring who look distinguishable from both parents, more or less.
Anyone got any thoughts on this?
Also, what other hybrids are out there? A lot of the snake hybrids, yes, but there's only maybe one or two hybrids in lizards that I know of. (such as Rhacodactylus chahoua x Rhacodactylus ciliatus)
I have yet to hear of any such amphibian hybrid- aside from, of course, the Fantasy Pacman Frog.
I do support hybrid herps (by hybrid herps, I really mean hybrid snakes as that's really the only kind of hybrid herptile out there, though there is a few exceptions) however, I'm also half with the other crowd who don't. I like hybrids, but I don't support 'muddy genetics' and when the genetics get messy. (e.x. 25% corn snake, 54% cal king, 16% milk snake, etc...)
I agree with the fact that we should keep some snakes pure, but I also don't mind the section with hybrids, who, if anything, should only breed with other hybrids of the same or similar type. I support mainly obvious hybrids, between two species and (as with other hybrid lovers) show a clear distinction between both parents. I don't support inter-subspecies hybrids so much.
Now that said...
I know of many hybrids including both Colubrids and Pythons, and I know a few Boa hybrids, although those aren't too common in the first place.
Probably the most well known hybrid are Jungle Corn Snakes, also known as KingCorns. (cal kingsnake x corn snake) Then there's also Carpall Pythons, another well known hybrid between a Jungle carpet and a Ball Python. And, a favorite of mine, the Wall Python. (woma x ball python)
What I've rarely heard of though, are Bull Snake hybrids. However, I do recall seeing a thread on kingsnake about a bull snake hybridized with a corn snake. Sadly, it looked a lot like a slightly larger corn snake with a slightly off pattern. It would obviously be mistaken for a Corn Snake- not a good thing for those who both support and don't support hybrids. There was also a thread about a naturally occurring hybrid between the bull snake and the california kingsnake. Much like the bull-corn, it looked like a slightly larger cal-kingsnake, although the pattern was a little more distinguishable than that of the bull-corn.
What I'm beginning to think, is that the Bullsnake genes are rather more "recessive" than the genes of other snakes. I'm wondering though, is that if there is a more, hybrid-friendly match for the bullsnake, which will create offspring who look distinguishable from both parents, more or less.
Anyone got any thoughts on this?
Also, what other hybrids are out there? A lot of the snake hybrids, yes, but there's only maybe one or two hybrids in lizards that I know of. (such as Rhacodactylus chahoua x Rhacodactylus ciliatus)
I have yet to hear of any such amphibian hybrid- aside from, of course, the Fantasy Pacman Frog.