Help! Tarantula took a fall and is bleeding

pcanceridesordie

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Brand new to this site, and a new tarantula owner. My Tliltocatl albopilosum’s cage fell off of her stand during my moving process. She was submerged in her substrate but I dug her out. She since then has been moved to an empty container with paper towel and a hide. She at first was leaking white fluid and blood. But it appears the blood clotted and fell off. Since then it’s just been leaking small amounts of white fluid. This is the best photo I could get while she was still in the original enclosure. Can I save her? She’s still moving around. What can I do to help her
 

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People say cornstarch on the wound can help stop bleeding, but just make sure she has access to water. This is a common question, and I'm sure someone more experienced will be on here soon but I'd recommend searching the threads.

 

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To be honest. Generally these injuries result in death. You can slow down bleeding by using cornstarch trick. Apply to wound to clot bleeding. Secondly, put back in enclosure. That icu you made will do no good. Third, enclosure is wrong setup. If T recovers, you need to put in a better enclosure more suited to the species. They love to burrow, move dirt and build tunnels. What you have greatly reduced that due to limited substrate height. All you can do at this point is try to keep it hydrated, hope it recovers next molt which will be a ways out based on size.
 

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To be honest. Generally these injuries result in death. You can slow down bleeding by using cornstarch trick. Apply to wound to clot bleeding. Secondly, put back in enclosure. That icu you made will do no good. Third, enclosure is wrong setup. If T recovers, you need to put in a better enclosure more suited to the species. They love to burrow, move dirt and build tunnels. What you have greatly reduced that due to limited substrate height. All you can do at this point is try to keep it hydrated, hope it recovers next molt which will be a ways out based on size.
I applied cornstarch. Her bleeding has stopped. I had to move her so she didn’t get dirt in the wound and so I can see her leakage on paper towel. Also that was her cage after the fall where half the substrate fell out and her hide and dish were buried. She is in need of a tank upgrade, I just moved moved my other tarantula into a ten gallon with tons of space and substrate. He’s a happy guy. I was worried about upgrading her because she’s a climber and often falls, and a bigger enclosure gives her more opportunities for that. She won’t go to her dish, is there another way I can hydrate that’s safe? Other than misting.
 

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She won’t go to her dish, is there another way I can hydrate that’s safe? Other than misting.
Not really that I know of, you just gotta wait and keep and eye out. If you're using a 10 gallon aquarium that can be problematic because cross ventilation is better, but also the screen lids are dangerous for the tarantula's feet. Best of luck!
 

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I applied cornstarch. Her bleeding has stopped. I had to move her so she didn’t get dirt in the wound and so I can see her leakage on paper towel. Also that was her cage after the fall where half the substrate fell out and her hide and dish were buried. She is in need of a tank upgrade, I just moved moved my other tarantula into a ten gallon with tons of space and substrate. He’s a happy guy. I was worried about upgrading her because she’s a climber and often falls, and a bigger enclosure gives her more opportunities for that. She won’t go to her dish, is there another way I can hydrate that’s safe? Other than misting.
Heavy bodied terrestrials are at great risk in those exo terra tanks. They're designed for arboreals.

Hopefully yours survives. If so, you will want to upgrade it to a horizontal oriented tank like your other one and fill it with substrate. You want no more than 1.5 times the diaginal leg span of the spider for space from the substrate to the lid. Also speaking of the lid, if its one of those metal mesh ones replace it with plexiglass that has holes drilled into it.

They all climb , some more than others. Its important to cater to that since they're not aware enough to not climb and hurt themselves by falling.

For now all you can do is wait. Keep the water dish full and hope for the best.
 
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Heavy bodied terrestrials are at great risk in those exo terra tanks. They're designed for arboreals.

Hopefully yours survives. If so, you will want to upgrade it to a horizontal oriented tank like your other one and fill it with substrate. You want no more than 1.5 times the diaginal leg span of the spider for space from the substrate to the lid. Also speaking of the lid, if its one of those metal mesh ones replace it with plexiglass that has holes drilled into it.

They all climb , some more than others. Its important to cater to that sine they're not aware enough to not climb and hurt themselves by falling.

For now all you can do is wait. Keep the water dish full and hope for the best.
Thanks for the advice, I had no idea. Never came up when I researched them, and this was the tank the seller gave to me. I don’t think she’s gonna make it. She bled through the corn starch and is barely moving now :/
 

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. I was worried about upgrading her because she’s a climber and often falls, and a bigger enclosure gives her more opportunities for that.
This is because you are housing it in a non appropriate enclosure. there exoterras are horribly wrong choices for heavy bodied terrestrials. The front opening doors do not allow for substrate to be filled up at least half way to a safe level for the tarantula.
Tarantulas also dont need a lot of room so a ten gallon may be too large unless its a MF. you'd be better off housing them in tubs that allow you to add lots of substrate, something that is top opening is what you need.
 

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Thanks for the advice, I had no idea. Never came up when I researched them, and this was the tank the seller gave to me. I don’t think she’s gonna make it. She bled through the corn starch and is barely moving now :/
Sorry to hear that.
But at least for next time you'll know.
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Thanks for the advice, I had no idea. Never came up when I researched them, and this was the tank the seller gave to me. I don’t think she’s gonna make it. She bled through the corn starch and is barely moving now :/
Hi
reapply the cornstarch as needed till bleeding stops.You can be generous with it as it will shake the excess off but dont go crazy.
You need to put it in something smaller with barely any height to it for now with slightly moist substrate and good crossventilation.Any fall even from very little height can reopen the wound the less she moves about the better.Dont feel bad for doing that they will often stay in their burrow for extended periods of time, just do it asap.Time is of the essence!!!
Leave waterdish with it.It will drink even if you don't see it.
If the tarantula is not responsive put her fangs in the dish.It will not drown as book lungs are on the abdomen.
Even if it perks up it wont be out of the woods untill it moults successfully then you can move it to normal size enclosure .
Regards Konstantin
 
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I was worried about upgrading her because she’s a climber and often falls, and a bigger enclosure gives her more opportunities for that.
Your T may or may not survive.

Your quoted statements above clearly demonstrate you didn’t do research for this exotic animal- that’s a shame in itself.

A bigger box only leads to issues when not setup correctly. Terrestrials esp heavy bodied species like yours should have NO MORE than 1.5x DLS distance from sub surface to lid.

If your T dies and you want to replace, you NEED to seriously research BASIC T husbandry- if you don’t the next will die as well.

Not really that I know of, you just gotta wait and keep and eye out. If you're using a 10 gallon aquarium that can be problematic because cross ventilation is better, but also the screen lids are dangerous for the tarantula's feet. Best of luck!
Cross vent is not an issue for this species.
 

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Your quoted statements above clearly demonstrate you didn’t do research for this exotic animal- that’s a shame in itself.
If your T dies and you want to replace, you NEED to seriously research BASIC T husbandry- if you don’t the next will die as well.
Yup this! I wish we could like make it so that the google search algorithm made every T seach come here, we'd maybe have less of these threads.
 

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reapply the cornstarch as needed till bleeding stops.You can be generous with it as it will shake the excess off but dont go crazy.
You need to put it in something smaller with barely any height to it for now with slightly moist substrate and good crossventilation.Any fall even from very little height can reopen the wound the less she moves about the better.Dont feel bad for doing that they will often stay in their burrow for extended periods of time, just do it asap.Time is of the essence!!!
Leave waterdish with it.It will drink even if you don't see it.
If the tarantula is not responsive put her fangs in the dish.It will not drown as book lungs are on the abdomen.
Even if it perks up it wont be out of the woods untill it moults successfully then you can move it to normal size enclosure .
Regards Konstantin
Last night I dipped her fangs in the water but she did not drink and curled up beside it. Throughout the night I kept trying and reapplied the cornstarch but I think the injury was too bad. She passed away this morning, an hour before the vet opened :(

Your T may or may not survive.

Your quoted statements above clearly demonstrate you didn’t do research for this exotic animal- that’s a shame in itself.

A bigger box only leads to issues when not setup correctly. Terrestrials esp heavy bodied species like yours should have NO MORE than 1.5x DLS distance from sub surface to lid.

If your T dies and you want to replace, you NEED to seriously research BASIC T husbandry- if you don’t the next will die as well.



Cross vent is not an issue for this species.
I did do research, I think I just did the wrong research. Her original substrate was very high, yet she still climbed to the top. She didn’t fall from the cage, my brother knocked her cage off while he was helping me move. The impact with the cage hitting the ground is what injured her. She did not die due to my care. She died due to a mistake while moving.

Yup this! I wish we could like make it so that the google search algorithm made every T seach come here, we'd maybe have less of these threads.
I wish it had too. The information I see when researching her species seems to be conflicting with the provided information here. I wish she would have lived so I could have given her the perfect space. Unfortunately she passed due to her injuries
 

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sorry to hear. Well, you have an arboreal cage, dig through the forum here and find out how to properly set one up and then go find an avicularia
 

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I wish it had too. The information I see when researching her species seems to be conflicting with the provided information here. I wish she would have lived so I could have given her the perfect space. Unfortunately she passed due to her injuries
Sorry to hear, sorry for your loss.

From now on stick to searching for answers here on AB. The web outside of AB is pretty much garbage for anything really accurate relating to husbandry. We wont lead you down the wrong path.
 
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Last night I dipped her fangs in the water but she did not drink and curled up beside it. Throughout the night I kept trying and reapplied the cornstarch but I think the injury was too bad. She passed away this morning, an hour before the vet opened :(
Hi
Im sorry to hear she didn't make it.
Don't bother with vets as long as tarantulas are concerned.Not heard of one that has specialised in arachnids yet and normal ones are waste of time and money.Here you can get better advice on your questions and issues you may have.
Regards Konstantin
 
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