Help Sexing Spiny Flower Mantis

[Tarantuland]

Can anyone help point out in detail how to sex these mantids?

Of attached pics1-4 are male, 5 is female. But how do you tell?

For context, I have a handful of Pseudocreobotra wahlenbergii. Someone who is very knowledgeable has helped me sex them. Even with his help, I still haven’t trained my eye well enough to sex them myself. Is anyone here experienced at this?

I understand with these males have 6+ segments, females have 5. The males have longer antennae and the females have a wider space between the last segments.

 

[Tentacle Toast]

Male mantids have 8 abdominal segments, while females have 6.

 

[Tarantuland]

Male mantids have 8 abdominal segments, while females have 6.

For many species that is the case, but These are 6 and 5 respectively

 

[Tentacle Toast]

For many species that is the case, but These are 6 and 5 respectively

I knew I should have double checked; it's been years since I've messed with mantids. Sorry about that....

 

[Tentacle Toast]

....they have to be like L4 or later too, yes?

 

[Tarantuland]

No worries I get the L mixed up but you can begin sexing at what we’d call 3rd instar