Help breeding wolf spiders?

eeeekkk

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Hello all,

I currently have two wolf spiders. (Allocosa obscuroides). I have both a male and a female. I have examined the palps on the two of them and can confirm that they are both of the opposite sex. I have had the male with me for a while. He's doing great and eating well. Tonight I found a female and I hope to breed them however I am a little stuck. I'm not sure how I should introduce the two to eachother as I don't really want things ending badly. The female doesn't look gravid, her abdomen is a little bigger than the males but that is to be expected. Any help or tips would be great, even tips as to if they do successfully mate tips on raising and caring for the young would also be very helpful too. Thanks.
 

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I'd probably introduce the male to the female's enclosure, but make sure both are well fed, otherwise they may try to eat each other.

If successful, you'll probably have a good number of young and you can either release some/all or let them cannibalize a bit to weed out the weakest individuals before separating them into their own enclosures.
 

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I'd probably introduce the male to the female's enclosure, but make sure both are well fed, otherwise they may try to eat each other.

If successful, you'll probably have a good number of young and you can either release some/all or let them cannibalize a bit to weed out the weakest individuals before separating them into their own enclosures.
Ah yes thankyou for your reply, I did end up doing that however I was still a bit unsuccessful. The male was fine and acting appropriately however the female wouldn't stop running away from him it was very strange. She's bluff and strike at him but never harm him in anyway. In the end I returned both to their separate enclosures. The male keeps scouting around for a mate and the female seems to be acting as normal. She eats well.
 

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Hmmm maybe he didn't give her all the right signals then. I'd say keep them separate for a few days and try again later. Another possibility could be that the female isn't mature yet.
 

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Hmmm maybe he didn't give her all the right signals then. I'd say keep them separate for a few days and try again later. Another possibility could be that the female isn't mature yet.
That is true. Her epigyne is present so I'm wondering maybe she had already mated with another male before I had her aswell? I'm thinking to leave her for a couple of weeks to see if she makes an egg sac or anything.
 
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Yeah if she's WC and hasn't molted in your care she could already be mated.
 

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Yeah if she's WC and hasn't molted in your care she could already be mated.
That is true. Well thankyou for your help anyways guess only time will tell aha. How much of a cool down to spiders need after mating and laying eggs?
 

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It's generally a quick turnaround, I'd assume within 2 weeks to a month you'll notice the female getting larger, if not having produced a sac by that point.
 

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It's generally a quick turnaround, I'd assume within 2 weeks to a month you'll notice the female getting larger, if not having produced a sac by that point.
Oh okay cool thankyou. I think her abdomen is getting a bit bigger? But that could just be my eyes playing tricks on me haha
 

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I'd probably introduce the male to the female's enclosure, but make sure both are well fed, otherwise they may try to eat each other.

If successful, you'll probably have a good number of young and you can either release some/all or let them cannibalize a bit to weed out the weakest individuals before separating them into their own enclosures.
Has anyone ever grew baby wolf spiders? Because mine always seem to die when Young yet they do eat well
 

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Has anyone ever grew baby wolf spiders? Because mine always seem to die when Young yet they do eat well
I think there's a large amount of die-off expected with wolf spider slings. What species are you trying to keep? Or are they just random lycosids you've found outside?
 

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I think there's a large amount of die-off expected with wolf spider slings. What species are you trying to keep? Or are they just random lycosids you've found outside?
Tigrosa Helluo. Thanks for the reply. If there's any tips which will lower their death rates and all I would want to know, thank you!
 

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I'd probably introduce the male to the female's enclosure, but make sure both are well fed, otherwise they may try to eat each other.
If successful, you'll probably have a good number of young and you can either release some/all or let them cannibalize a bit to weed out the weakest individuals before separating them into their own enclosures.

In need of help identification of tiny black spider with orange stripe thats fast as lightning
 
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Tigrosa Helluo. Thanks for the reply. If there's any tips which will lower their death rates and all I would want to know, thank you!
I'd say keep the slings with decent humidity and good ventilation and see how they do. Lycosids produce huge numbers of offspring because the assumption is almost none will make it to adulthood, so they may not be the most fit individuals overall.
 

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Hmmm maybe he didn't give her all the right signals then. I'd say keep them separate for a few days and try again later. Another possibility could be that the female isn't mature yet.
Can a spider mate with two different males? Or with the same one twice?
 

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Can a spider mate with two different males? Or with the same one twice?
While I'm not fully sure with wolf spiders, I'd assume after one successful mating she'd reject other males until she uses up all the sperm from the first one.
 
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